Adam Poultney Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) I don't really know how all this group build suggestion and organising is supposed to work, but now that we have a new tool Vulcan on the way does anyone thing a V Force GB or Vulcan STGB might be a good idea for 2020/21? Ok so I think I understand all I need to do now This GB will be competing for a 2021 slot, hopefully the new Airfix Vulcan will be out by then. (A January or February slot would be very nice as it is not long after the Vulcan release and misses exam season) V Bomber Group Build II: .Anything V Force goes! This is Vulcans, Victors, Valiants and the development aircraft such as the Avro 707 or Sperrin. So when I say anything, I really mean anything. (Even non v force aircraft that were involved in development in a significant way are welcome, such as the Avro Ashton which tested Olympus engines) .I would like to include (semi) realistic what-if variants in this group build, such as the Vulcan B3 or a production Valiant B2. Alternate schemes are welcome, such as if Australia had bought Vulcans or whatever. .Airliner derivatives of each V Bomber were proposed so these are fine in the GB. Bonus points to anyone building an Avro Atlantic as I'd like to see them .V Bomber related builds, such as support equipment, all fine by me, but it would be nice to see this in a diorama with an aircraft .Any scale is fine, so the full range of V Bomber kits currently available is open to you as well as those which are more difficult to find .Standard GB rules would apply (perhaps an exception on the 25% rule for restoring old Frog type kits if anyone wants to do that kind of thing) .Bonus imaginary internet points from me for Vulcan B.1s 😛 .For members lacking in display space, the old tool Airfix vulcan will likely go down significantly in price and a pretty good cockpit section can be made from that. 1/200 Vulcans are only a little bigger than a 1/72 Spitfire, and a pretty easy build. Interested members (36 and increasing!) 1. Host, @Adam Poultney - Probably a Vulcan or six, a few victors and maybe a Valiant. An Avro Atlantic conversion to join as well? 2. Cohost?, @Col. - something nuclear 3. @Corsairfoxfouruncle - a Victor? Maybe? 4. @Back in the Saddle - Vulcan, Valiant performing its role as the backup 5. @Rabbit Leader - Instant sunshine machine that looks like a spaceship 6. @robvulcan - A Vulcan of course 7. @nimrod54- >25% complete little Vulcan 8. @PhantomBigStu - Vulcans and Victors for the birthday boy 9. @zebra - counted in because he couldn't say no 10. @theplasticsurgeon - Something from the stash, just remember to replace whatever you build 11. @CliffB - the forgotten one, Frog Valiant restoration 12. @Arniec - a Victor or the Airfix Vulcan (the over twice my age one) 13. @JOCKNEY - lucky 13, Matchbox Victor 14. @DAG058- playing along 15. @Colin W 16. @Hockeyboy76- 1/144 Victor 17. @dnl42- 1/144 Vulcan B2 with Fundekals markings 18. @rafalbert- something from the stash in 1/144 or 1/72 19. @ajmm- mini mini tin triangle (1/144 Avro 707) 20. @bootneck- 1/144 Trumpeter Vulcan 21. @Basilisk- 22. @Timmas- build TBC 23. @Jonesy.Models- Avro 698 VX777, joining me in the mental asylum 24. @stevehnz- 1/144 kit 25. @exdraken- in with a 1/144 something beginning with V 26. @gaelicfire -in with something 27. @MarkSH-Airfix Vulcan (the bad one) 28. @helios16v- joining us with the Airfix Handley Page spaceship (Victor) 29. @Harrywilliams -vacuform Valiant 30. @reini - member 30!!!! 31. @Ruttman 32. @Stefan Buysse - GWH 1/144 Victor 33. @JohnT - Victor? 34. @At Sea - in for two with a Vulcan and a Victor 35. @The Wooksta! - what-if-ery on XM594 36. @TonyW -frog restorations Full(ish) list of injection V Bomber kits: Airfix Valiant B1 1/72* Airfix Victor B2/K2 1/72 Airfix Vulcan B2 1/72 (the bad one) Airfix Vulcan B2 1/72 (the good one) Matchbox/Revell Victor K2 1/72 (just buy an airfix kit) Mach2 Vickers Valiant B1 1/72* (avoid this kit!) GWH/Pit Road Vulcan B2/K2 1/144 GWH Victor B2/K2 1/144 Trumpeter Vulcan B2 1/144 (now available) Mikromir Valiant B1 1/144 Mikromir Victor Bk1a 1/144 (I'd love to see a few of these!) Dragon/Cyberhobby Vulcan B2 1/200 Lindberg Victor B1 1/96* Lindberg Valiant B1 1/96* Lindberg Vulcan Prototype/B1 (straight wing) 1/96* (apparently a good basis for a 1/32 Avro 707) Frog Vulcan B1 1/96* Frog Victor B1 1/96* Frog Valiant B1 1/96 Kader Victor Prototype/B1 1/148* Kader Valiant B1 1/148* *out of production Short Sperin kits: Anigrand 1/144, Resin Magna Models 1/72, resin S&M models 1/144, resin Avro 707 kits: Whirlybird Models 1/72, vacuform -A B and C variants 144th.co.uk 1/144, resin -A and C variants, including kinked wing A Pro Resin/Olimp Models 1/72, resin -A, B and C variants Also, here's my guide to modelling vulcans and the various modifications to each aircraft that I'm working on UPDATED VERSION 2.0, a website! Many reference pictures included https://adamjackpoultney.wixsite.com/vulcanmodellingguide Edited September 4, 2020 by Adam Poultney 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Ive always been a fan of the Victor Bombers so you can add me if i can find a 1/144th or a 1/72 at a desperate pinch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) I was going to suggest the same tomorrow once it's been confirmed there is indeed a new-tool Vulcan kit coming from Airfix but you've beat me too it. In which case I'll offer to be your co-host My other thought was for a Bomber GB to include a wider range of subjects if there wasn't enough love for the V-bombers alone but let's see how it goes. Edited November 8, 2019 by Col. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Col. said: I was going to suggest the same tomorrow once it's been confirmed there is indeed a new-tool Vulcan kit coming from Airfix but you've beat me too it. In which case I'll offer to be your co-host My other thought was for a Bomber GB to include a wider range of subjects if there wasn't enough love for the V-bombers alone but let's see how it goes. Obvious a bombers GB has a nice ring, but if not how about a nuclear bombers one? I'd be down for all three Edited November 8, 2019 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, PhantomBigStu said: Obvious a bombers GB has a nice ring, but if not how about a nuclear bombers one? I'd be down for all three I did offer up a Nuclear GB a couple years ago but in never gained much attention. Maybe worth me trying again sometime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Col. said: In which case I'll offer to be your co-host An offer I will gladly except 52 minutes ago, Col. said: My other thought was for a Bomber GB to include a wider range of subjects if there wasn't enough love for the V-bombers alone but let's see how it goes. That sounds sensible. If there's not enough interest, expand it to all Cold War bombers Edited November 8, 2019 by Adam Poultney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 Oh and here's the original 2012 GB https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/forum/395-v-force-group-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I’m up for this! I’lll do any one of the Airfix Valiant, Victor or Vulcan. The Valiant is in my stash, the others are not...! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, PhantomBigStu said: Obvious a bombers GB has a nice ring, but if not how about a nuclear bombers one? I'd be down for all three You in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Back in the Saddle said: I’lll do any one of the Airfix Valiant, Victor or Vulcan. The Valiant is in my stash, the others are not...! How about all of 'em? You know you want to... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I know I want to too - it’s just a question of time! If the new kits go together as well as I hope, I might do more than one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, Back in the Saddle said: If the new kits go together as well as I hope, I might do more than one! Even if it don't, I'm doing more than one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Adam Poultney said: Oh and here's the original 2012 GB https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/forum/395-v-force-group-build/ It might not be a bad idea to re-use the rules and guidelines as a basis for this build. “RULES 1. All builds must be less than 25% at the start of your build, if unsure please ask. 2. Your build must be part of the V Force or dirivertive i.e. Victor tanker, we will also allow What If V Force. 3. Also included, a specialised armamaents section so if somone wants to make a blue steel or blue danube we will welcome it as long as its V Force orientated 4. And have fun.” Dennis Edit: did not see you already pretty much did this. Edited November 8, 2019 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I like Adam's comments about the Avro 707 and Short Sperrin. That adds a pretty wide scope to the GB. Handley Page HP.88 anyone? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Enzo Matrix said: Handley Page HP.88 anyone? Went and looked this up. Now i have an idea for a Whif build. Thank you for introducing me to a type i was unfamiliar with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Oh yeah! Airfix Valiant and Victor in my stash. Not sure what I'll build - but count on my support. Still there - mid-Oct 2020. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Happy to add my name to this list as well... if you expand it to all Nuke Bombers and are looking for a cool name you could always call it the "Instant Sunshine" GB? I've a stashed Airfix Victor in the cupboard and will no doubt add a new Vulcan as well. You've seemed to miss the old Matchbox / Revell 1/72 Victor to your list of kits too, there's still plenty of these knocking about. Cheers and good luck.. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rabbit Leader said: Happy to add my name to this list as well... if you expand it to all Nuke Bombers and are looking for a cool name you could always call it the "Instant Sunshine" GB? I've a stashed Airfix Victor in the cupboard and will no doubt add a new Vulcan as well. You've seemed to miss the old Matchbox / Revell 1/72 Victor to your list of kits too, there's still plenty of these knocking about. Cheers and good luck.. Dave I'll take that suggestion for a name is this gets expanded. And yes the Revell Victor! How could I forget... Really not a fan of that kit tbh because of the shape issues of the nose and intakes but I've seen some very nice builds of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Adam Poultney said: You in? I’ll find it hard not to be in especially if the start date is near Christmas or my birthday making it easier to get either the new Vulcan or a victor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Impossible to say no to this one - count me in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Add me to the list too Adam. I have a Cyberhobby 1/200 Vulcan B.2 which has its tail glued in place but it should be within the 25% rule. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 https://www.hannants.co.uk/search/index.php?search=Avro+707 Look what I just found! Might do one of these for the GB then if it happens.... I have no experience with resin outside of wargaming kits done to well... tabletop standard, aka not as good as I'd want for a scale model. 3 hours ago, nimrod54 said: Add me to the list too Adam. I have a Cyberhobby 1/200 Vulcan B.2 which has its tail glued in place but it should be within the 25% rule. Sure that sound fine. It's not like 25% is really an exact measure on a model kit. You could always convert it to a B1a to make more work 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 https://www.hannants.co.uk/search/index.php?search=Sperrin Also of use ^^ Anyone know why Anigrand sell their kits all in bundles with other kits? Seems like a very odd thing to do 4 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said: I’ll find it hard not to be in especially if the start date is near Christmas or my birthday making it easier to get either the new Vulcan or a victor We can aim to *start* on your birthday 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 6 hours ago, theplasticsurgeon said: Oh yeah! Airfix Valiant and Victor in my stash. Not sure what I'll build - but count on my support. Oops missed your comment, you're in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Yes please Adam. I've got both of the 1/96 Lindbergs in my stash. I'm also currently restoring a FROG 1/96 Valiant (which is not on your list ). Cheers Cliff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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