JWM Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Hi, Next old and odd German of my current "production": Dornier Wal J II named also Do 16 in markings of Royal Yugoslavian Air Forces. Basic kit by Huma witha scratch modification to version with two Gnome-Rhone 480 HP radial engines. Besides engines the scratch work was also done with bomb racks, small control units to rudders (not present in kit for some reasons - unlike similar units in elevators and ailerons) and to single rear gunner position (Huma kit has two of them on rear deck, on sides from top). Decals by Serbian company Lift Here provided by my friend Zora from Beograd (many thanks!). Following info on Lift-Here decals leaflet the RYAF exploited one early Wal JI with number 200, and ten JII of late production, with rounded wingtips all. initially they were six J II with G-R Jupiters (numbers 251-256) one with BMW in-line engines (No 257) and three with Hispano-Suiza engines (No 258-260). Just before war Nos 251,252 and 253 were upgrated to much more powerfull HS engines. Machnes were based on south coast of Yu, namely the Kotor bay, and were used for patrol flights. No machine survived war in April 1941. She looks like this: And some play with photos... Comments welcome Regards, Jerzy-Wojtek Edited July 26, 2017 by JWM Switch to Flickr 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 That's definitely one you don't see often! Very nicely done, although I can't help thinking it maybe needs a little wash of some sort to break up the uniform colour. I'm by no means an expert on weathering, tending to shy away from it, but a little black pastel shaved off and applied in water then wiped off does leave a nice, subtle, streaked and worn look. I used it on my Short 184 for the first time and was very pleased with the result... Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Very unusual and very impressive! I wonder if the Kora Dornier 18 beaching gear would fit this kit? Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Ian and Martin thank you for comments, it maybe needs a little wash of some sort to break up the uniform colour Frankly speaking I am not experience with whole surface washing - thank you therefore for instruction, I will try perhaps. Although the Lift Here reccomended very little weathering as airplanes were said to be well maintened. I wonder if the Kora Dornier 18 beaching gear would fit this kit? The Do 18 had different beech gear then Wal. The Wal had an unusual large wheels attached on sides of floats (from photos I reconstructed that it should be 24 or 25 mm of diameter in 1/72 scale or a single inch if you want) and a small buggy supporting rear of fuselage. I was constructing some of this out of scratch but I quit finally, mainly due to not sure look of the rear buggy. Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini78 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 another unusual subject, nice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_W Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Beautiful work as always. Dornier Flying Boats have a certain elegance to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Nice to see another of your builds of unusual aircraft. Duncan B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kRoland_78 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Great work on this model. I really like the "texture" painting of the wooden prop. Thanks for sharing Roland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warhawk Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Hello, Great choice of exotic subject. I see that the decals have produced some silvering, especially ones on the fuselage. Never has this happened to me with LH decals. Have You applied a gloss coat before, and some setting solution after the decals? If there was no lacquer after the decals, maybe it's not too late for it now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Hi J-W it's great to see s Wal actually built. I wish to do a SCW version, but I have trouble finding pictures and plans of the engines, also I only have old Airmodel Vac-Fotm kit . . This looks fantastic and the huge wing markings are stunning. Very nice work on modifying the engines. Great stuff Tony Edited March 9, 2016 by TonyTiger66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave N Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Very nice Jerzy- a great looking build of a very unusual subject. Thanks for posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dyck Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Really excellent!! Good to see these unusual type!!!!!! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Many, many thanks Gents for comments and likes. I see that the decals have produced some silvering, especially ones on the fuselage. Never has this happened to me with LH decals. Have You applied a gloss coat before, and some setting solution after the decals? If there was no lacquer after the decals, maybe it's not too late for it now... Warhawk, this silvering surprised me since I used diluted Pactra gloss for surface below decal, than I cover it again with the same after aplying, wait some 2 days for drying before applying matt Vallejo cover and it was only a bit shining - not exactly silvering (before matt cover) so I hope it will vanish. And I still do hope that the adhesion is correct and the problem is with reflection from outside surface. I will try to add second matt cover and we will see... Hi J-W it's great to see s Wal actually built. I wish to do a SCW version, but I have trouble finding pictures and plans of the engines, also I only have old Airmodel Vac-Fotm kit Tony, there is a new kit Amodel announced - with rectangular wingtips and it has SCW decal in box! . I am still not decided if I will buy it, to do second Wal in my collection... but I made here this engine conversion to the other then were used in Wals in NEI and in SCV to give myself excuse to buy perhaps the Amodel kit... Moreover - the Amodel has a beech qheels and buggy in box - so it is temptating me even more (and perhaps this was also the reason for gaving up wiyh scratch build of the beech wheels...) Cheers Jerzy-Wojtek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch K Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 What a superb piece of work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael K Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Nice to see this rare modelvery nicely done ... This is really an eyecatcher Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relja Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 You have built a beautiful model, congratulations! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 A sublime build Jerzy, I like this a lot. Thanks for posting something different, Sean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Another very nice esoteric subject from you Jerzy,.......very nice indeed. Cheers Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) Thank you Mates for so positive reception of this Wal. I appreciete it very much. BTW - the seoncd coat of Matt Varish reduced a bit reflections on side numbers, but did not cured the problem to the very end... Cheers J-W Edited July 26, 2017 by JWM Switch to Flickr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 On 3/9/2016 at 1:28 AM, JWM said: Hi, Next old and odd German of my current "production": Dornier Wal J II named also Do 16 in markings of Royal Yugoslavian Air Forces. Basic kit by Huma witha scratch modification to version with two Gnome-Rhone 480 HP radial engines. Besides engines the scratch work was also done with bomb racks, small control units to rudders (not present in kit for some reasons - unlike similar units in elevators and ailerons) and to single rear gunner position (Huma kit has two of them on rear deck, on sides from top). Decals by Serbian company Lift Here provided by my friend Zora from Beograd (many thanks!). Following info on Lift-Here decals leaflet the RYAF exploited one early Wal JI with number 200, and ten JII of late production, with rounded wingtips all. initially they were six J II with G-R Jupiters (numbers 251-256) one with BMW in-line engines (No 257) and three with Hispano-Suiza engines (No 258-260). Just before war Nos 251,252 and 253 were upgrated to much more powerfull HS engines. Machnes were based on south coast of Yu, namely the Kotor bay, and were used for patrol flights. No machine survived war in April 1941. She looks like this: And some play with photos... Comments welcome Regards, Jerzy-Wojtek Hi J-W Reading your article I see you have only look on the instructions from the kit and Lift hire decals . There are fine books covering this particular matter PVKJ. (Pomorsko vazduhoplovstvo Kraljevine Jugoslavije) I strongly recommend you book Naval aviation at the eastern coast of the adriatic sea 1918-1941 Volume 1 authors are Vladimir Isaic (+) and Daniel Frka. Next is magazine from year 1990 also good reading and pictures for you. Link to get them iare hire: http://www.tkoznazna.hr/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=113 http://www.ebay.ie/itm/aviation-YU-JNA-aero-magazin-dc-6-albatros-sabre-airplane-dornier-/122305676026?hash=item1c79fc82fa:g:BoYAAOSwA3dYQWrI I like the subject you have choose. Actually you made it fine with some deviations. I have three Wal`s at home. Two HM and one A model. But I like to give you some advises regarding how to correct this Huma model if you like. Regards, Ales 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Many thank Ales. I was also using some photos which I found in net. I corrected what I noticed... Of course the engines are totally scratchbuild, I alredy noticed, that there should be opening in the top, which I made as flat area. I ordered now A-model Wal JI. I am intending to do that one in colours from Spanish War. From Royal Yugoslavia WWII machines I have IK2 (totally scratch bulid), Formaplene IK 3, Blenheim Mk I (all those are more than 40 years old now), then Gipsy Moth on floats "Sarejevo" and Do 22 from Egipt. I have also Croatian Avia B33 and Partisant Fi 167. Perhaps that all so far build. I hope to do soon Breguet 19.8 (RYAF) and in stash I have Do 17K and Avia FL 3.... There are still interesting machines like Rogozarski SIM series - but I do not have them even in stash. Best regards Jerzy-Wojtek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndM Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Beautiful build and presentation. A Dornier Wal is a rare sight even in big forums like BM. It would be interesting what you say about AModels new Wal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 An unusual subject but superbly presented. First class modelling and modifications. Congratulations. P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Ah. Just lovely work JW. A splendid flying boat. Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Congratulations for the great model, it's the first time I see one converted to radial engines. As already said, a Wal is a rare bird an that is a pity, as it is one of the most important flying boats between the wars. 18 hours ago, Ales said: But I like to give you some advises regarding how to correct this Huma model if you like. Regards, Ales Ales, I am very interested in any information you have to share on the Wal and on correcting the Huma kit. I've been comparing it with photos and it is not so good as I thought previously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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