Brandy Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 On 1/1/2019 at 6:07 PM, Hamden said: Happy New Year to you. Nice work on those bomb bays it's really coming together nicely now. Roger Many thanks Roger, the same to you! They are progressing, albeit rather slowly.... On 1/2/2019 at 2:57 AM, Courageous said: I'm exhausted just watching that bomb bay rework. Looking better. Stuart Sounds like time for a pint then, I think I'll join you Stuart! On 1/2/2019 at 3:35 AM, CedB said: Happy New Year Ian! Nice work - those bays are going to look marvellous Thanks Ced, and the same to you and yours! On 1/2/2019 at 3:44 AM, Massimo said: Excellent work on those bays, Ian!!! Well done !!! Happy New Year!!! Thanks you Massimo, likewise to you and your family. I must say that's quite a compliment having seen your Buccaneer! Well chaps, it seems I've been a bit remiss on updating. Having said that there hasn't really been much to photograph. I have been working (slowly) on the wing ribs in the bomb bays. Originally I had planned on doing them in brass as all the pics in Ian Huntley's book show them as open structures with braces However upon closer examination of pics of the real thing, plus the cutaway sections in the book from the original sources, I came to the conclusion that it was probably only the prototype that was open braced (hence all the pics of it during construction) and that production models had solid sheet ribs with lightening holes in them, so that is the route I've taken. I used 10 thou card and roughly cut them to shape before adjusting them to fit through simple trial and error: sand, test fit, sand, test fit...you know how it goes! Once they fitted I secured them in place with blue tac and ran a steel rule across the underside to get the shape to match the curvature of the wing under surfaces. More gentle sanding in places and I'm now happy with the results shape wise. On to the detailing! That was where my trusty punch set came in handy! To all those who keep saying they'd like one but it's too expensive, I'd say "go for it!" If you think you need one, you WILL use it, and once you have it, it will be indispensible. The best $70 I've spent in a while. The holes were guestimated according to the cutaway drawing in IH's book. They are a mix of 2.5mm, 2.0mm and 1.8mm. They may not be the correct sizes, and probably aren't 'cos the wing surface is a lot thicker than a scale piece of metal sheet, but at least they look ok. Now I need the dimensions for the Universal Bomb Carrier, or "Carrier, Bomb, Universal No.1" in RAF parlance. There were two separate carriers fitted but they were linked together, and raised up and down to allow clearance when the aircraft was used as a dive bomber. The connections ran through a cutout in the rib, which I have roughly marked out, and was basically 2 semi-circular shapes (although not quite as they weren't a full half width), with the curved edges facing each other. I have marked them roughly in the pic above, but need the dimensions for the centre part of the carrier to know how far apart to set the edges of the cutouts. As marked above I think they're too far apart. Any help would be appreciated. Also, does anyone know if these carriers are available in PE? Either the 250lb or 500lb would work The ones I've seen don't appear to be the same as the Battle ones had horizontal (steadying?) bars attached with flattened ends, although it would be a simple enough job to solder those on myself. This pic from Ian Huntley's book shows the tabs I'm referring to.. although this image from the parts book doesn't show them, so were they only on the prototype also? If anyone objects to those two pics being used for reference purposes I will happily remove them. Back to the bench! Thanks for looking in, have a great weekend everyone! Ian 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 “On to the detailing” Surely the understatement of the year so far! I continue to be amazed at the amount of sheer graft you’re pouring into this. This is turning into a real head turner. Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, limeypilot said: so were they only on the prototype also? May have saved you a spot of soldering Ian. PM sent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Very nice work Ian, lovely detailing going on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Max Headroom said: “On to the detailing” Surely the understatement of the year so far! I continue to be amazed at the amount of sheer graft you’re pouring into this. This is turning into a real head turner. Trevor Cheers Trevor, I must admit I'm enjoying this one immensely, and it will certainly be a little above the "average Airfix Battle" even if I make a total hash of the rest of it! 1 hour ago, TheBaron said: May have saved you a spot of soldering Ian. PM sent. You're a star Tony! I have gone a little overboard I'm afraid - I've ordered both the Red Roo cast brass carriers, and the Marabu PE set. My hope is that between the two I will get a pretty good set of carriers, with a little bit extra added for good measure of course! (I also ordered the Marabu landing lights). Although I have no idea how long the Red Roo bits will take to get here from Oz, and the others I have had sent to my dad's place as they wanted $60 for postage! Ian 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Impressive stuff Ian. Martian 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Martian Hale said: Impressive stuff Ian. Martian 👽 Thanks oh tentacled one, a compliment indeed. I was tempted to say that I was still a little green, but I won't. Whilst trying to sort out details for the bomb bays, my attention turned to the landing gear, and more brass work. I spent most of this morning measuring, checking plans, remeasuring, and trying to decide what size of brass rod/tube I would be needing. I finally came up with a plan. The starting point was at the upper end, and I used some spare PE, bent at a right angle, which will be the base mount for the main gear legs. This will be epoxied to the brass rod already inserted once the assembly is complete. The main gear leg will be 1.4mm brass tube with a 1.2mm inner sleeve to narrow it down, and a small 1.6mm collar at the lower end. That will all be soldered to the above angle piece. The starting point, 1.4mm tube Plus the 1.2mm insert and finally with the 1.6mm collar The lower gear leg will be 0.8mm aluminium tube with a 0.5mm brass rod insert to give it more strength. That will extend from the top of the main leg where it meets the mounting point, all the way through to the axle. An outer sleeve of 1.2mm brass tube will compete the lower leg. That's the plan anyway..... Thanks for looking in! Ian 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Those bays are another nice addition! Well done Ian!!! Edited January 13, 2019 by Massimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 As per Massimo's comment, the bays look excellent. It's one of those things in a build when you don't expect to get carried away (OOB build intended) but you do; which in this case can only be a good thing. Oh if you don't mind me saying though Ian, and forgive me for being a little cheeky... On 1/12/2019 at 7:33 AM, limeypilot said: … I think the bombs need a little more work … just saying ... 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 7:37 PM, limeypilot said: attention turned to the landing gear Pulling the stops out here Ian, will be interesting to see how they turn out. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Tomoshenko said: I think the bombs need a little more work … just saying ... Maybe some racks, used on a Heyford from a set, which I saw somewhere on it. Maybe not 100% to yours , but 69, 665576% or so etc. would be greatful, if not perfect for scratch building things. Hope, I said that in a readable way without too much damage on your language. Cheers Edited January 13, 2019 by bbudde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 1:24 AM, Courageous said: Pulling the stops out here Ian, will be interesting to see how they turn out. Stuart Thanks Stuart, I'm looking forward to that myself, but it may be a while (see below) On 1/14/2019 at 1:39 AM, bbudde said: Maybe some racks, used on a Heyford from a set, which I saw somewhere on it. Maybe not 100% to yours , but 69, 665576% or so etc. would be greatful, if not perfect for scratch building things. Hope, I said that in a readable way without too much damage on your language. Cheers Thanks Benedikt, I have ordered a set of Marabu PE carriers, and also Red Roo's cast brass items. Hopefully between them I should be able to come up with something decent! Further to that comment, I found I'm lacking some 1.0mm aluminium tube which I'll need for the main gear. I've ordered some but Hannants wanted 30 quid postage! Needless to say it has been sent to my Dad's place, along with quite a bit of other stuff I've ordered recently, and hopefully he will be able to combine it all and send it over at a reasonable rate. I may even have him hold on to some of it (not the bits I need for this though!) and pick it up when I come over in May for my baby sister's 50th! There will now be an interlude, hopefully not too long of one, while I await said supplies. In the meantime, I am starting another thread on the repair/restoration of the Pfalz E.IV which got damaged in the move here last year. See you soon! Ian 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Sweet baby J... this is some brilliant stuff! Glad I never posted my attempt at the battle on here. Looking Ng forward to what else is in store, she looks amazing Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad's lad Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Is the interlude over yet? I can't wait to see more. Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 4 hours ago, dad's lad said: Is the interlude over yet? I can't wait to see more. Clive. I wish it was! Still waiting on a package posted in February from the UK. Ironically I asked my dad to send it because I wanted it quickly, but I'm going back to the UK next week for hols so it looks as though I'll get the non-urgent stuff first! Ian 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Safe travelling Ian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) BOO! It's back! After rather more of a delay than anticipated I have brought this back to the bench. The brass and other supplies have all been received, the Pfalzen completed, and a very pleasurable (and unexpectedly successful) trip to Telford has been completed. Speaking of which, here's the unexpected bit..... To say I was gobsmacked is a huge understatement, there were some gorgeous models there! Anyway, back to the subject. Not too much for today as I spent a lot of time trying to figure out where I'd got to and what was supposed to come next! Since I have the PE bomb racks I decided to finish the wing ribs and added the cutouts for the rack mechanism. Drilled, enlarged with a scalpel, then finally shaped with half-round and rectangular jeweler's files. Here are the racks Those should work, although they'll need a little more detail added as the Battle had them mounted as a pair, joined together through the rib (hence the cutouts). and fitted I'll leave those to dry overnight, next step will be to squirt some paint at them and see how they look! Thanks for looking in, and welcome back everyone! Ian Edited November 20, 2019 by limeypilot 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Kay Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, limeypilot said: BOO! AAAH! You made me jump there! Huge congrats on the gold medal. I like the idea of competitions, but I really don’t think I am good enough. Kudos to those who are, I say! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Nice to see this one back on the bench Ian and congratulations on your Telford triumph Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, Heather Kay said: don’t think I am good enough There's nothing wrong with your replicas Heather your up there with the best! Roger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, Heather Kay said: but I really don’t think I am good enough. Neither did I! My reason for entering them was to let people get a better look than they would likely have got elsewhere. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Heaty congrats on the award and delighted to see this one back where it belongs. Delighted of Mars 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Heather Kay said: I like the idea of competitions, but I really don’t think I am good enough. Oh give over,your work is way up there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Congrats on the gold Ian, and the way the Battle is shaping up you may well get another! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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