71chally Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Excellent images again Tim, best I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete57 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 9 hours ago, Dave Fleming said: Might get one to do as late mark mk III Working from memory, there was a bit of discrepancy in some published sources about where the F3 production ended and the F4 started (possibly because as other than a small intake in the nacelle they were pretty much identical) I had the same idea. However looking at pictures of the G.41E's (long-nacelle MK III's) it appears that also the rear portion of the nacelle was differently shaped, as the Meteor 4's Derwent 5's should have a wider diameter nozzle than the Derwent 1 thru 4's used in the G.41E's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, TimK said: Dave, thanks for your information about Moreton Valence. It's clear now that my photo of EE455 from the rear was a Gloster company photo taken there, as were most of the other posed images. My suggestion that it was at Manston is wrong. Several Oxfords in the background in this one.So knowing now that this set of images was taken at Moreton Valence, with the outer wings in natural metal, it reopens the possibility (likelihood even) that the wings were painted yellow before EE455 went to Herne Bay to attempt the record. Tim Er, what? We have one set of pictures with short wings in natural metal (or alu paint), apparently well before the '46 record attempts, and one set of pictures taken during the '46 record attempts with long wings in natural metal (or alu paint). How does this create a likelihood of there being yellow-painted wings in the middle? It's fine to speculate aboyut hypotheticals but Is it too much to espect at least one picture or contemporaneous report from a reliable witness describing the aircraft as having yellow outer wings during this period before assigning a notion of "likelihood"? Edited April 5, 2017 by Work In Progress 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 On 05/04/2017 at 9:21 AM, Pete57 said: I had the same idea. However looking at pictures of the G.41E's (long-nacelle MK III's) it appears that also the rear portion of the nacelle was differently shaped, as the Meteor 4's Derwent 5's should have a wider diameter nozzle than the Derwent 1 thru 4's used in the G.41E's. Interesting, looking at pics I can just about see that - IIIs having a longer/narrower exhaust - more research needed! Fall back position - one of the High Speed Flight camo'd aircraft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Released: https://www.specialhobby.eu/en/our-own-production/special-hobby/gloster-meteor-mk-4-world-speed-record.html?cur=1 V.P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Gollin Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 . This is very much off-topic, but I can't find a more appropriate thread. Does anyone do a conversion to make an accurate very late Meteor Mark III with "long nacelles", preferably in 1/72nd ? Supposedly there were 12 (?) of them. Does anyone know their serial numbers (and appropriate camo) ? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, Phil Gollin said: . This is very much off-topic, but I can't find a more appropriate thread. Does anyone do a conversion to make an accurate very late Meteor Mark III with "long nacelles", preferably in 1/72nd ? Supposedly there were 12 (?) of them. Does anyone know their serial numbers (and appropriate camo) ? Thanks. Phil, AFAIK, the above SH Meteor Mk. IV Record Breaker kit comes complete with everything you need to build a late long nacelle Mk.III. Normal Day fighter camouflage would be the order of the day as I've not seen any photographs of these aircraft is HSS finish. The serials are probably the last 12 or so from the Mk.III production batch. I've seen these listed somewhere however cannot confirm them at this very moment. This SH kit can basically be build into a late III, IV, or as depicted as one of four Record breaking schemes. The 4 x 20mm cannons are still intact on the original sprues and the instructions suggest to file and fill them if building Yellow Peril etc. Hope this helps. Cheers.. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritJet Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Phil Gollin said: . This is very much off-topic, but I can't find a more appropriate thread. Does anyone do a conversion to make an accurate very late Meteor Mark III with "long nacelles", preferably in 1/72nd ? Supposedly there were 12 (?) of them. Does anyone know their serial numbers (and appropriate camo) ? Thanks. The last 15 F3s EE479 - EE493 were built with the longer nacelles but other F3s were retrofitted with them as well. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Gollin Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 . Thanks for those answers. So a Derwent long nacelle was identical to a Derwent V long nacelle ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viscount806x Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Phil Gollin said: . Thanks for those answers. So a Derwent long nacelle was identical to a Derwent V long nacelle ? . Phil, it's not too bad a conversion if you simply cross kit two kits. If you want to do a cheapo hack job as a trial, you could use the old Airfix FIII with a Frog (or a Russian pressing) FIV. Still would work out cheaper than a resin conv. and probably more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Only just seen this topic. I couldn't work out whether or not it had been decided if it had the yellow wings for the record attempt (or at any other time). Has anybody found the definitive answer? This is my version produced by adding wing extensions to the Revell F4. John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The available evidence all suggests that it didn't have yellow wings at the time of the record flights. However I am a strong believer in making your models however they please you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Work In Progress said: However I am a strong believer in making your models however they please you. I am in full agreement but as I specialise in oddballs and one-offs I like to get them as right as I can. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Now's your chance to do another one then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 As if I didn't have a big enough backlog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Reviewed here http://www.hyperscale.com/2017/reviews/kits/sh72361reviewgc_1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 or here on the site; Julien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 3/24/2017 at 10:06 PM, Madoc said: Great finds with those videos there! And they had to be absolutely insane to be doing such high speed runs at those low altitudes. A single pigeon bridstrike could've been lethal at that speed and lack of height! And no ejection seat either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viscount806x Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 11:14 AM, Meatbox8 said: And no ejection seat either! That would be a Sea Pigeon I assume, with a MSG upper and White or Sky Type 'S' underside.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 It's certainly not without its hazards, but nor it is a particularly unusual risk for military aviation. They were required to stay below 75 metres, which is 246 feet, for the record runs in those days, and it was a high speed for its day but it's only about 540 knots which makes it sound less scary. Buccaneers and Swifts used to do that speed, and more, right down on the deck on regular service just a few years later. Even the Hawk trainer operates routine missions at 420 knots at 250 feet today. Birdstrikes are definitely nasty in any aeroplane at any speed but you've got an armour glass windscreen on a Meteor, which helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainpeden Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I have just been given this photo by a friend of a friend. His dad is in the a/c and was taken at Tangmere. I have only ever seen a profile of this a/c which had white codes - I'd say 99% not. Any thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Esposito Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Other than the CA kit, is there s good styrene kit of the Meteor Mk.4 in 1/48? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafdec Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Hello, Iain, I`m afraid you are mistaken about the a/c being taken at Tangmere. The WW1 hangers were bombed during the War and replaced by " T type " ones post-war. These in the photo are Pre-War ones. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, iainpeden said: I have just been given this photo by a friend of a friend. His dad is in the a/c and was taken at Tangmere. I have only ever seen a profile of this a/c which had white codes - I'd say 99% not. Any thoughts? The codes are not white in that photo for sure. The Special Hobby kit has them as Sky, which is plausible looking at your photo, but the kit decal sheet omits the outlines which are clearly visible on the letters in the photo. Xtradecal did them as white with a thin black outline. However, as we know, things like this can and do change overnight in the life of an aeroplane, especially where Very Senior Officers are prone to tinkering to the extent to having custom paint jobs on their personal runabouts. Edited June 28, 2020 by Work In Progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinK Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Work In Progress said: The codes are not white. The Special Hobby kit has them as Sky. Mmmm...but, looking at the OP's photo, they seem darker than Sky and are outlined in a much darker colour. They might be even be roundel red outlined in roundel blue? As it's an AOC's aircraft a bit of non-standard might be expected, especially as the main aircraft colour is a special one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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