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  1. It has gone awfully quiet, I check their Facebook page and nothing pops up on there. Also, Valom replied to a question on a Varsity to follow the Valetta, and the answer was 'unfortunately', which doesn't sound positive! There is mention of a Viking to follow in the future.
  2. Generally speaking though there is alot less sanding with a modern injection kit*, before you even start you have to remove items from pouring blocks with resin. But as I say I'm leaning towards trying a resin kit soon. *Mach2 kits accepted
  3. Happened 17 June 1960. Judging by photos some Valetta C.1s did seem to have remained in an all over natural metal finish in to that period.
  4. Problem with resin isn't just learning to make the kit from this material, but also dealing with the hazards. Living in quite a small house with my family means I have two sq metres of modelling room in the converted attic, and allowing the dust up there is a no no really, it's something I'm looking into dealing with though as there quite clearly some lovely resin kits out there now.
  5. There's a little bit on the tanks at the end of this thread.
  6. Personally I don't think there is a definitive answer to this and it can be era and airframe specific, a case of pick your subject aircraft and try and interpret best you can. The only thing I will add is that personally speaking I haven't seen an image that convinces me that a solid paint colour was used. In the later service lives some Buccaneers display quite a yellowy finish in the intakes, whereas some it's more a dull grey look, even jets side by side in a slide I have are finished differently to each other. Jut had another look at some images, one of the best set are of Buccaneers arriving off Ark Royal at St Athan in 1978 by Robin Walker, and some really show that yellowy finish quite well, if you take a good look at this one below in the link I think you can see details of the structure. I would say that is a coating of the translucent aluminium corrosion prohibitor stuff (forget name) that was used. https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1159379/ Other examples of the yellowy finish in various degrees of translucency, https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy-ford/27416363887/in/photolist-HLG2P6-27kDhQP-UbnJt5-Zh7vUQ-PtjhJU-Urnv45-UFEaKR-UFEaqH-U6wR45-GnaSEn-24a8qaH-Tpavqd-ToXhqj-XfRwhW-CM8RPq-WFSM1F-25e8pyN-25s8Pud-K4zJzZ-27qwWHx-2866Co1-PpHobJ-JQQcHg-29izATf-26NwomN-JQQcJ8-KhDcXw-27kDhTp-dzqrvX-dD91pB-GmZAyz-GDKEb9-TmFPVy-cCkB6w-PpHosf-Uuat1T-U6wQu9-UfkGS4-ZRacUs-A355se-nDeDFY-UocZHw-24GTtaw-27suTvT-29U6oyx-26Nworh-KLaUN7-KLaURd-nLYVyy-26NwoxE https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy-ford/42797734441/in/photolist-28cTzp8-JQUZBn-25w4nPF-FT653t-JQQcDP-26wnPFk-25tt9Bj-HLG2P6-27kDhQP-UbnJt5-Zh7vUQ-PtjhJU-Urnv45-UFEaKR-UFEaqH-U6wR45-GnaSEn-24a8qaH-Tpavqd-ToXhqj-XfRwhW-CM8RPq-WFSM1F-25e8pyN-25s8Pud-K4zJzZ-27qwWHx-2866Co1-PpHobJ-JQQcHg-29izATf-26NwomN-JQQcJ8-KhDcXw-27kDhTp-dzqrvX-dD91pB-GmZAyz-GDKEb9-TmFPVy-cCkB6w-PpHosf-Uuat1T-U6wQu9-UfkGS4-ZRacUs-A355se-nDeDFY-UocZHw-24GTtaw https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy-ford/42284466481/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/126917003@N05/40625023625/ https://www.airfix.com/media/tinymce_upload/a1b0b400e5ebb82c0b19d80f58438fbd.jpg Here's more of the dull metallic finish which seems to be seen earlier in their service, https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/model/Blackburn Buccaneer S2 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/00/9f/a3009fb9639d67753799ef58b699a893.jpg What I've tended to do is mix a dull metallic (Humbrol 56 or equivalent) and add grey or tan to get the tone.
  7. RAM decals did a set for early Royal Navy Phantoms, including 767 and their camouflaged jet. The company itself has gone I think, but you might find a set on EBay. Almark did a set aswel, but I don't think it was particularly great, and not sure if you can still get it.
  8. What, like their completely spurious Avenger. I could be wrong but I'm guessing the intakes weren't touched, it just retained the dark sea grey intakes from the RAF, kind of suits the finish of the rest of the airframe. Also, unless the restoration is well researched and documented I wouldn't trust the finish of an aircraft for historical correctness. The airframe still retains a few RAF features. I wonder if @canberra kid has any documentation on the painting of these areas on the RN Buccs?
  9. Julien, that is an ex RAF Buccaneer. As I mentioned in my first post there were types in FAA with natural metal inlet ducts, possibly for the reason I mentioned, but would love to know for sure. These may have been treated with a laquer or varnish coat, I don't know. These areas wouldn't get heated but they would suffer erosion and tarnishing.
  10. Just in case you go the in service route, I've never seen a service shot of WT680, but it served with the West Raynham Station Flight and then the Day Fighter Leaders' School of the Central Fighter Establishment from the same base. This was the same unit that lost six Hunter F.1s in one sortie when the weather suddenly deteriorated and they ran out of fuel in Feb 1956. Two other Hunters were on the same sortie, it would be interesting to know if this was one of those. This is a pure guess from me, but I think unit markings were minimal, a single letter code, the overall finish being the gloss dark sea grey and dark green camo top with dull silver undersides. @StephenMG Might be able to help more. Another reason that I have mentioned about the service condition of F.1s and WT680 is that it does present the modeller with the fairly unusual opportunity to make the kit without the link collector bulges, and in many cases without any underwing pylons etc. A good way of making the glorious Hunter in its pure form! BTW the corrected small engine (F.1 & 4) vents for the Airfix kit is here, https://aerocraftmodels.bigcartel.com/product/hawker-hunter-f-4-corrected-spine-for-airfix-kit
  11. The question is about Navy Buccaneers though. The RAF did paint inside the intakes, certainly in the later years, I've got pictures showing dark grey, white, and a green being used.
  12. I remember @perdu asking about this, and this is just my take. I've tapped with my knuckles and had really good close up look at Bucc intakes and they look like alloy to me. My absolute guess to the finish colour is that they were unpainted and tarnished to various degrees of dull grey, brown or tan. But, maybe tinted coatings were used at some stage? Lighting really doesn't help, and some photographs will render the dark intakes as almost black (instead of a colour) due to film quality, lighting and the fact that we are viewing digital copies. It's surprising how many FAA jets seem to have unpainted intake ducts, Scimitars and Sea Vixens for example, especially given the operational environment they were in, I can only wonder if it helped during corrosion inspections? Nice last picture with the Martel on one and data pod on another Bucc.
  13. Thanks Enzo, I was unaware of that dedicated set!
  14. In case they don't, Kits At War K7/11 features PX366 E of 80 Sqn, it's a nice little set.
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