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Iain Peden
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You can use RAF light a/c grey as well. At least 1 model paint manufacturer does.
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Waiting for paint to dry on the latest F-4 so I thought I’d try to bring this conversation together. The first key point is that the 2 pictures initially posted are not service a/c; the QF-4E is one of the drones painted to represent a former Phantom scheme, the other is the Collings F-4D (actual 65-0749) marked as 66-7463 c. 1972 and however good the paint scheme ……. The first USAF Phantoms (F-110A/ F4-C and RF-4Cs) were delivered in the USN scheme of Light Gull Gray (FS36440) over white. The Vietnam War led to the need for camouflage for many a/c @fubar57 is correct in
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Julian, that picture is of the Collings Foundation a/c which has been refurbished and repainted- be great to see it as the star exhibit in Gloucestershire in July! I have just been checking through D&S 1 (F-4C/D and Rf-4C) and have found a picture of an RF-4C with the extra dark green camo. She is RF-4C-23-MC 64-1066 assigned to the Minnesota ANG. Tail codes are all white, she is covered in stencils (white on the green, black on the tan) and the fin cap has a band on - probably green, bordered in gold. Arrestor Hook warning is applied just in front of the stab and she has,
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Stefan I have just done a quick look at a few books, (including Airdoc USAFE Phantoms, C&M 13 post Vietnam F-4Es and Vliegen voor de Vrede (USAF in Europe) and this may help. For what you call the SEA 2 scheme I can find pictures of F-4Es with PN, OS, RS and SJ tail codes; F-4Gs with SP code but no USAF RF-4Cs. The only short nose Phantom I could find with the "extra green" was the Spanish F-4C at Greenham Common IAT in 1977 and that was not uniform across the Spanish fleet. The 2nd picture you post is one of the heritage jets specifically repainted in a former F-4 s
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I'd hazard a guess that SEA 1 was to the original paint scheme and that most Vietnam era a/c were so-painted. Afraid it'll be an a/c by a/c search of photos to get an exact answer but I can't recall seeing an RF-4 with the extra dark green (now prepared to be proved wrong!)
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+1 on that one
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Al Check my 2 posts just above _ I'm pretty sure they give a fair reason for the Lightning F.2A green issue. Dick Ward on his Modeldecal sheets also gave it as standard Dark Green. I also think it's something to do with the slab sided design of the fuselage and how light reflects off it. Pm if you want me to go further. Iain
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Hi Ian,
Can I have this one please:-
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Hasegawa F-4G Phantom PT9. Lizard and Gray schemes
£28
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The new Italeri decal sheets are pretty good for both the F-4C and FG.1 Phantom boxings so that could be good news. The Esci E/F was available in at least 3 boxing all with 3 or 4 decal options and the ability to model the original and later slatted wings. The Italeri F/G was also boxed by Tamiya and has probably the best slatted wing available. Whichever kit it is, it's most welcome as long nose Phantoms are in short supply - as are RFs
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I was heard that the tone of green on the Lightnings was caused by regular washing down with copious amounts of WD40 - if that was tried as a weathering technique I wonder if there'd be a model left?
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Unlike Jamie I'm not an expert on these things (no sycophancy just true!) but I think a few things have been missed in this developing discussion. First, I believe that the underlying formulations of paint - the "paint technology" if you like - has changed over the years and this has led to differences in hue/shade/tone of what is meant to be the same colour. Next, for modelling purposes, the effect of scale colour - which can be argued about endlessly. Then there is the actual application of the colour on the a/c - I'm thinking of the F-4Es at Alconbury show in 1984(?) - all us
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Fujimi Spey Phantom all the way, unless you want to add half the plastic in the box to the landfill.
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The McAuslan books are hilarious and worth both reading cover to cover and dipping in to. I'd also recommend Mr American by George MacDonald Fraser - set in Edwardian times - a great story and a great read. if you like detective stories with a difference, the Bernie Gunter books by Philip Kerr are superb. The stories dip from the Weimar republic through the 2nd WW to the 1950s; they link history to fiction. The information about various real characters at the end of each book give a worrying insight into how many former Nazis ended up in positions of power in what became the E
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Javelin FAW.9 XH897 A&AEE 1/48 Airfix
iainpeden replied to petetasker's topic in Ready for Inspection - Aircraft
That's great. If you decide to display her as she is today you'll need to bend the front pitot tube abit - it was either run into something or some horrible child decide to hang off it! -
Go to Halfords and get a yellow spray can.