giemme Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Looking very good, Ced! from that last pic, one would think it's in 1/48 I hope the bl....y decals set properly Ciao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Thanks Giorgio, kind of you, as always The PC recommended tape has arrived! Too late for this build but in the stash. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Most of the transfers have settled well except the underwing roundels - they've been zapped with Daco strong... that'll teach 'em! While waiting for that to dry I looked at the rack supports: Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr Instructions? Hmmm. I tried waving my finger in a circle under the PE but nothing. Ah, I see, the arrows show which way to bend the part - see? Don't worry how you bend to get two different shapes - just turn two of them around (like the left handed wrench story qv). Do NOT decide you've done it wrong and bend the PE the other way - it'll break: Rats. Perhaps, as per the 'Royal boxing' instructions I can use the kit parts? Too small? Probably. I'll have to glue the broken bit back on then. Later. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Bad luck Ced . Surely Eduard made the rack supports for the same aircraft? In which case, they should be ok? Maybe the AM photo-etch ones are a bit too big? The Eduard ones look fine . Just thinking out loud.. It could be my screen, but it looks like the stripes are a uniform, very tidy, white now. It really has turned out very well. Best regards TonyT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Thanks TT The one reference shot I can find doesn't really show the racks but they look pretty standard in SHAPE but they also seem bigger than standard? That said, I'm not convinced by the PE ones either which look like some kind of insect: Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr with some legs missing. I've glued them to the rack but I'll wait and see what they look like with the barrels on before glueing the 'feet'. They do seem to dangle over the wheel wells at the back. Hmmm... 6 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Haha, looks like an ant with some legs missing. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I suggest replacing the long bits of P.E. with some stretched sprue, although it'll be a tricky job to attach them. There also appears to be some form of bar between each bit that attaches the barrel to the bomb rack, perhaps that can be replicated using the surplus P.E. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Thanks Benedikt Thanks Simon These things are tiny! I'm not sure I'm up to scratching the bars... but then no-one's going to see them on the ceiling!! I thought I'd see what the kit parts looked like fitted so I checked the instructions to see what parts I needed and noticed that they say the 'double bar' should be on the outside. Great. I removed the PE ones. Bad idea. None survived: The kit parts are securely fitted on the sprue: Seriously? Carefully removed them with the duck-billed nano-saw and glued them in place: At least they'll be hidden by the barrels... ho hum. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Looks better, but I would scrape them smaller or thinner with a sharp blade. Oh photoetch can sometimes look not right, even in 1:72 (too two dimensional). Cheers 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I think I prefer the kit racks over the PE parts (which are anyway out of question now, I presume ) Ciao 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I'd have to agree with Giorgio Ced. By the time the barrels are on those plastic parts rather than the PE will be perfectly fine. Tony 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, TheBaron said: I'd have to agree with Giorgio Ced. By the time the barrels are on those plastic parts rather than the PE will be perfectly fine. Tony X 2 . Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Looking good Ced, as the others have said the PE stuff is too large, and the kit offering is more in keeping with scale and dimensions. As per Mr bbudde's advice, if you can scrape 'em smaller go for it, although it'll be quite fiddly. Other than that as per Mr Baron's and Giorgio's remarks, you won't see much once the barrels are on, and hey, at the end of the day your spit is fulfilling a vital service keeping troops in beer, so providing the barrels and straps are in keeping with authenticity - which they are - then to hell with the racks! 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) I agree. The kit parts look a lot betterer. The Decals look great on two. johnny Edited August 23, 2017 by The Spadgent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) I am trying very hard (I know, very trying too) to remember any instance, any, just one will do, when photoetch has been the right size, indeed even the right choice for a model in 1/72 scale for me I am aware that Crisp is finding gainful emplyment in 1/48 scale of some etchery designed to make hanging noisy bangy things off the sides of Sea Kings 1/48 scale and even that has needed modification in some manner Did you just write 'double bits to the outside'? EDIT My screen res is a bit pants so I didn't see the double bits were outside If you need to take me out and shoot me, do distract me with a pint of something hospitable Partial to a few pints of Bass if that is OK Edited August 23, 2017 by perdu 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 14:55, CedB said: So I've become a bit obsessed with D-day stripes. Jaime (@jrlx) did a great reference post on it here. Sadly the photos have been hit by the PB ransom but the main bit of interest is that the stripes are 18" which equates to 6.35mm at 1/72. Ced, thanks for your interest in my technique of painting D-Day stripes. It's probably a bit late for your build but I've just re-linked the pictures of the post where I explain the technique in a step-by-step fashion (here). Cheers Jaime 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 Thanks Benedikt, Giorgio, Tony, Simon, Tomo and Johnny - I'm with you, the kit parts DO look better and I also think they're closer to the 'original' in size Thanks Bill - something to watch out for; the PE instructions look as though the doubles are on the inside, but I think outside is right Bass for me too please! Thanks Jaime for updating the photo links in your thread - it's a great reference and step-by-step, well worth bookmarking (I have!) In a vain attempt to avoid more PE work I've painted inked the LE stripes. I've cheated again as I did on earlier Spitfires and used the Liquidex pens. Easy: Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr I quite like the 'field painted' / weathered look it gives after a couple of coats (fast drying). That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! No excuse not to get on with the barrels now. First I made sure of the strap position: Then I carefully glued the straps with dots of CA around the barrel. Held in tweezers. Pinged. Cursed. Found on the floor. Finally, glued on: CA on the racks, barrel placed and pushed down gently, drop of CA on the joins, just to be sure. When that's dry I might take some close up shots. Too nervous to move it at the moment. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) I just knowad I like you Ced, its w kind of instinctive thing Anyone who enjoys a proper quaffing session of beer drinking has to be my kinda guy Bass has none of that "infused heathers and cinnamon, wafted over a bed of whiskey grained hot hops and with strong flavours of wibble" crap for me "I'll just have a pint please, glass of Muscadet for the wife too bartender. Have a drink on me yourself!" Edited August 24, 2017 by perdu 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Fine job with them barrels, Ced! Now you have two perfectly weathered barrels hanging from a pristine aircraft, though .... you might have to fix that Ciao 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 37 minutes ago, perdu said: Anyone who enjoys a proper quaffing session of beer drinking has to be my kinda guy As a descendant of two generations of London publicans Bill I wish to associate myself with those perspicacious pronouncements...and indeed the general tenor of your subject here Ced. Still awaiting release of the legendary Kate Bush / Chas & Dave collaboration on Spitfires and beer: 'Oh England, Mine's a Half.'.... 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 Thanks Bill - it's mutual! Proper Chap stuff is Bass. And Butcombe, my current favourite in the local Thanks Giorgio Ah but, the barrels didn't come WITH the aircraft, they've been hanging about for ages. The aircraft was little used (apparently) so I'm not going over the top with weathering. Thanks Tony We must all have a beer (or two). Telford? Still deciding but I may go up Friday and stay a couple of nights. On with the fiddly bits. Drill a hole for the underwing aerial: Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr I was warned. Those drills are fragile. No, really. Note that the roundel there has been touched up over the hump with my mixed paint. Nice to see it matches. Stick on the aerial, cannon (broke off), rear view mirror (again!), prop and pitot. Touch up. Nav lights. Done. Ready for matt coat: As promised, a close up of the barrels: Happy with those. I'll come back later after the matt and de-masking to post a link to the RFI. Thanks as always for your help, support and general companionship, really appreciated 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Looks most excellent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 That looks like all kinds of funky! It seems that the radiator walls has loosened up a little? Some TETC to get them in line again perhaps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Stunning result - brings a whole new meaning to AAA! Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 1 hour ago, CedB said: Thanks Giorgio Ah but, the barrels didn't come WITH the aircraft, they've been hanging about for ages. The aircraft was little used (apparently) so I'm not going over the top with weathering. Yes, of course ... I was just teasing you Great job, looking forward to the RFI pics now Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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