ArnoldAmbrose Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 22 minutes ago, Faraway said: this one will be a tight fit on A4, but it should work. Gidday Jon, Yeah, should just fit. Otherwise try it diagonal across the page. Looking at the hull against the ruler she looks just a tad shorter that an Airfix HMS Ajax kit in 1/600. And photocopying the scheme as templates - very clever - I'll have to remember that. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilh Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 hours ago, Faraway said: @neilh removing 3D parts from the sprue, is a nightmare. My nemesis is the shoulder pads on Oerlikons 🤬. You’re right about painting them, if only they were in long lines, life would be easier. I used to spray them as they were and then touch up the paint when I took them off, now I take them off, lightly stick them with PVA to a piece of card, then spray them. This works better, especially when there are different colours for different pieces to consider. Jon I'll have to try that next time. I tried it with Blu tack and the force of the spray even at low PSI sent them flying towards the back of my spray booth. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psdavidson Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I thought for a minute you were planning to paint the scheme on the cover of the book I'll be lurking in the corner /P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, psdavidson said: I thought for a minute you were planning to paint the scheme on the cover of the book I'll be lurking in the corner /P That is a simple pattern, you should see some of the ones in the book. Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Base done. As I was cleaning the hull, it struck me that it has quite a narrow beam. So out of interest....... This is USS Ward compared to HMS Badsworth. Jon 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Quick question. Does anyone know if ships of 1918 had a black, or any other colour, ‘boot topping’ ? From all the pictures I can find from that period, it looks to me they didn’t. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 This is certainly interesting. I see a dark paint along the water's edge in the 2nd photo you showed. Do you reckon that is the anti-fouling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, Faraway said: As I was cleaning the hull, it struck me that it has quite a narrow beam. Gidday Jon, actually I don't think they did, they just look it due to the tapering of the hull. Compare their vital statistics (well, ships ARE referred to as 'she' 😁) with those of the similar vintage V & W class, the A through to H class, they are all about 310 - 315 feet long and have a beam of about 30 feet. The Hunt class were shorter but again had similar beam. The USN four-stackers had their maximum beam over a much shorter length so I guess in a way they had less usable deck. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, dnl42 said: This is certainly interesting. I see a dark paint along the water's edge in the 2nd photo you showed. Do you reckon that is the anti-fouling? Possibly. Also, I been informed that the dazzle paint on WW1 ships, was sometimes painted over the ‘boot topping’. It seemed to depend on the whim of the captain. So, I reckon I might add a thin black line between the dazzle and the red anti-foul. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: maximum beam over a much shorter length so I guess in a way they had less usable deck. Jeff. Your right, and it can be plainly seen in the photo, ‘modern’ ships get fatter close to the bow. So, as you say, less usable deck and I guess less usable place below the deck. Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 I've changed my mind, no boot topping. I am impressed with some of the Master Brass parts that have been included with this kit. The top pair are the propeller shafts and the bottom piece goes on the 24' Whale boat davit, don't know what its called. But they are fine bits of turned brass. Now the fun starts, as I try and make masks for the dazzle. Although I'll probably spray everything white first. Jon 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 It's called a Griping spar and the bulbous things are called "Puddings". She has very elegant lines Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, robgizlu said: Griping spar and the bulbous things are called "Puddings". Makes you wonder who comes up with these names but looking like a very good start Jon. Stay Safe beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 15 minutes ago, robgizlu said: It's called a Griping spar and the bulbous things are called "Puddings". @beefy66 very early days yet, the dazzle fun has yet to start. @robgizlu being a font of all knowledge, I don't suppose you know where the names come from ? Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Gidday, this is just a guess, but if the straps that hold the whaler in are called 'gripes' then I'm assuming they hold the boat against that spar to keep it still while stowed, hence 'griping spar'. As I said, just a guess. Puddings? You might have to go back to Nelson's day for that one but puddening is a rope fender on a boat, and these look like they're padding of sort. Regards, Jeff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Faraway said: @robgizlu being a font of all knowledge, I don't suppose you know where the names come from ? Jon At the risk of being impudent - from my Admiralty "Manual of Seamanship 1951" In reality - Sorry No idea. Rob 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 White overall. And I've got the drawing to as near as makes no odds to the model size. From this I will cut templates for the pattern. Searchlight platform. Nicely printed 3D lattice. I've got to say, some of these 3D printed parts are very scary. Especially when I've only got one of them. Jon 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 I've had a change of heart and added the boot topping as a very thin line. I wasn't going to, but I'm glad I have done. So now she is ready to have her bottom masked, and the dazzle can commence. Jon 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/23/2024 at 6:04 AM, Faraway said: A hopefully useful diagram This is build is giving the impetus to build a vessel in a Western Approach scheme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, dnl42 said: A hopefully useful diagram Very. Trouble is, it does seem to making me more work, what with jumping nets, davit spans etc etc. Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeR Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 A German modeller did the same thing with the 1/700 Flyhawk kit not long after the kit was released: LINK. The article is in German, but gives a rough idea of what he did. Mike. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 Next colour applied. Colourcoats (US09) 5B Thayer Blue The next stage will be to cover the white, again, and the Thayer Blue and apply the dark blue. @Tegethoff I hope you bought those shares in masking tape Jon 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegethoff Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 50 minutes ago, Faraway said: @Tegethoff I hope you bought those shares in masking tape Jon Thank you for the heads up! I was just off to put an offer in on the Chateau de Versailles, but heard @S-boat 55 has paused his construction so might have to wait until the new light cruiser is released in April... Looks very good so far! I'm watching with great interest 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamevender Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Just for a flash from the past, here's the Revell 1960's take on the same subject. Good kit in it's day. I gotta believe your's will be an improvement on it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 8 minutes ago, gamevender said: I gotta believe your's will be an improvement on it. We shall see, a ways to go yet. Interesting to see the rigging and that split aerial, food for thought there. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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