Whofan Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I noticed that the website for SAMI, MA and MMI is showing February 2022 issues with free gifts - sanding pads for SAMI, 1/144 Zvezda fairey battle and a German machine gun with crew (1/72). I'm assuming these will be on the shelves in WH Smiths this week, have there been any sightings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 So they have spare money to give away freebies, but not enough to pay the contributors they’ve ripped off over the past couple of years? Riiiiiiiight. Cynical? Moi? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 36 minutes ago, lasermonkey said: So they have spare money to give away freebies, but not enough to pay the contributors they’ve ripped off over the past couple of years? Riiiiiiiight. They have included freebies before , funded by the maker/distributor and usually confined to specific shop chains , much the same as other publishers such as Key bundle free publications with their monthlies occasionally for Tesco or WH Smith etc. , always feel that it makes a mockery of the often promoted idea that a monthly reserved copy with the outlet of your choice is next best thing to a subscription. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Although I have not seen them myself, I am reliable told that the latest February 2022 SAMI issue is in fact a redacted version of April 2021's issue with the editorial and diary pages replaced but the same cover and articles - even the 'NEWS". or more correctly YEAR OLD NEWS. The same is true for February's MAM and SMMI. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whofan Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Paul Bradley said: Although I have not seen them myself, I am reliable told that the latest February 2022 SAMI issue is in fact a redacted version of April 2021's issue with the editorial and diary pages replaced but the same cover and articles - even the 'NEWS". or more correctly YEAR OLD NEWS. The same is true for February's MAM and SMMI. Just checked and the April and May issues were the missing ones, weren;t they? So if this is what they have done, it ought to be made clear. Edited February 8, 2022 by Whofan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) Look familiar? : Edited February 8, 2022 by Paul Bradley Whofan changed his response. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whofan Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 How disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, Whofan said: How disappointing. Quite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarthogMKL Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Very disapointing . Edited February 9, 2022 by WarthogMKL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, WarthogMKL said: Very disapointing Very restrained. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 A hypothetical question asked out of curiosity: if a contributor has an article for which they are entitled to payment published in one issue, then that article is published again in a subsequent issue, are they entitled to payment again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, MikeC said: A hypothetical question asked out of curiosity: if a contributor has an article for which they are entitled to payment published in one issue, then that article is published again in a subsequent issue, are they entitled to payment again? I suspect that it depends on any contract signed or agreed and it’s terms. My bet is that the publisher pays a fee and contracts to use the article as sees fit in any and all publications including reprints. You would need to see the actual terms to know for sure though. The publishers will be in breach of contract to magazine subscribers though if they have taken 12 months payment and are sending out reprints. Won’t affect off the shelf buyers though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, MikeC said: A hypothetical question asked out of curiosity: if a contributor has an article for which they are entitled to payment published in one issue, then that article is published again in a subsequent issue, are they entitled to payment again? I've had articles published in SAMI which then appeared in a 'Special' a while later. Only payment was for the initial publication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamnFockes Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I had that copy of SMMI I think (I recognise the cover). It was garbage first time round (where is the 'dakka, dakka' coming from the vision slits on the tank?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 13 hours ago, Paul Bradley said: Although I have not seen them myself, I am reliable told that the latest February 2022 SAMI issue is in fact a redacted version of April 2021's issue with the editorial and diary pages replaced but the same cover and articles - even the 'NEWS". or more correctly YEAR OLD NEWS. The same is true for February's MAM and SMMI. Wasn't it Groundhog Day last week ? I have the print copies of the April 2021 issues in front of me and only difference on the cover , other than dates and barcode info , is that the 'Under New Ownership' flash on the 2021 SAMI does not seem to be repeated on the 2022 image. 13 hours ago, Whofan said: Just checked and the April and May issues were the missing ones, weren;t they? Sure that they were one of the issues that were only going to be available on subscription so signed up for three months worth and Dave did a great job distributing them from his garage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixII Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 16 hours ago, WarthogMKL said: Very disapointing . 15 hours ago, Paul Bradley said: Very restrained. Should have just left it! You've got two 'head, shoulders and body' better publications than your previous employer.........nuff said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B (Sc) Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 My word - thanks Mr Bradley. Amazing. That is a breath-taking level of brass neck ! I really feel sorry for any random newsagent buyer who may think he/she is getting a new production magazine. Stupidly, I feel that makes us all look bad! John B 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I just typed the names and months of the mags into Google Image and copied the results - they were daft enough to leave up the old ones for anyone who cared to search. I agree that it's breath-taking. This was hardly accidental - this could only have been done deliberately. Do they think people are stupid? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HartDeco Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) This is the 3rd month they reprint issues from last year. As expected, the contributors haven't been paid again. I guess l can offer my articles to another magazine now as they can't claim any rights to any of them. We're talking about at least 4 articles of mine alone here. René Edited February 10, 2022 by HartDeco 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HartDeco Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 8:35 AM, MikeC said: A hypothetical question asked out of curiosity: if a contributor has an article for which they are entitled to payment published in one issue, then that article is published again in a subsequent issue, are they entitled to payment again? What do you mean with again? lol René 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/8/2022 at 8:21 PM, Whofan said: I noticed that the website for SAMI, MA and MMI is showing February 2022 issues with free gifts - sanding pads for SAMI, 1/144 Zvezda fairey battle and a German machine gun with crew (1/72). I'm assuming these will be on the shelves in WH Smiths this week, have there been any sightings? No sign in my local newsagent as recently as this afternoon (Friday) , last issues were on the shelves by the end of the first week in January so would have thought the next might have appeared by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whofan Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Des said: No sign in my local newsagent as recently as this afternoon (Friday) , last issues were on the shelves by the end of the first week in January so would have thought the next might have appeared by now. Cheers Des, haven't had a chance to look myself in the local Smiths. Given I already have it - April 2021's issue, as mentioned by others, I won't be buying it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Whofan said: Cheers Des, haven't had a chance to look myself in the local Smiths. Given I already have it - April 2021's issue, as mentioned by others, I won't be buying it. Much the same myself but was wondering if it actually existed or if it was going to be another 'phantom' issue beset by a catastrophic string of unlikely coincidences that no other monthly seems to have suffered from in the past two years. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spruecutter96 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Deeply dishonest and shamelessly profiteering. If they have any subscribers left (and that seems like a VERY big if), there are going to be some disappointed punters out there. Surely keeping your loyal customers happy should be any company's main priority? Chris. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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