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tomprobert last won the day on December 25 2015

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  1. Early B-17 internal colours

    The picture above is indeed the canvas covered sound proofing I was referring to - this could be a pre-war aircraft as much of the padding etc was removed once in theatre. The armour plated bombardier seat was replaced with the more common swivel chair in later batches and models. The colour photo of the rear fuselage, in my opinion, is unlikely to be lacquered - it's just dark in there. Having read B-17 production notes, I've not come across any mention of lacquer bing used, neither have I ever seen a period picture of yellow zinc chromate being used - but that's not to say it didn't happen! I visited Dayton a couple of years ago and had a good look over 'The Swoose' which is a C/D hybrid and there certainly was no paint at all on the interior of the fuselage - it's all aluminium and was in original condition.
  2. Early B-17 internal colours

    The nose and radio rooms were not painted - they were left in natural metal. Early models (up to mid-batch Fs) had an olive green sound proofing fitted to the side walls of the radio room and nose, but this was often moved in theatre. Bomb bay and rear fuselage were natural metal, with only exposed metal on the flightdeck being painted dark dull green. Sound proofing was also fitted to the cockpit sidewalls and was olive green.
  3. To be honest I have no idea about the accuracy of it shape-wise, I just loved the accurate surface detailing. The Trumpeter one does look very nice made up, but I'd never had the opportunity to see them side by side to compare. If only Trumpeter would fire their over-zealous rivet-man!! Cheers, Will. There are a fair few sink-marks to deal with - I used Milliput and wet finger to fill/remove them which makes it a fairly painless task. With the interior being natural metal it does have a tendency to show every blemish which didn't help the situation! Tom
  4. Evening all This is very likely to be my last completed model for 2017 - I've been working on it on and off since August and it crossed the finish line this week. I picked up this classic from Airfix at a model show for a mere £20, and set about building it for a bit of nostalgia and a love for one of WWII's unsung heroes (the Spitfire seems to get all the glory!) I built it more or less out of the box, but did use SAC metal undercarriage legs, an Eduard seatbelt set and aftermarket decals from Techmod. A bit of extra piping was added to the engine, but other than that it's as it comes. It fitted together pretty well - at least better than I was expecting for such an old kit. The wing roots were a little tricky and there was plenty of filler needed here - Archer rivets to the rescue to replace those lost in the filling and sanding process. The worst fitting parts were probably the landing light covers and these took a lot of careful trimming to get them flush with the leading edge. Some of the detail is a little clunky and not up to today's standards, but the surface detail is streets ahead of the Trumpeter offering, with beautiful raised rivets and lovely fabric effect on the rear of the fuselage. Paints were from the Xtracolour enamel range, with the flat cote from Humbrol. Hawker Hurricane MkIc, 306 (Polish) Squadron, RAF Ternhill, November 1940. For £20 it was certainly great value for money. Happy modelling! Tom
  5. That Lincoln looks superb, Neil. The base sets it off beautifully. Sorry to hear that you were unwell for Telford - I popped over to the Bomber Command table to be told you were unable to make it. Glad you're feeling better and have been back at the bench. Still, I'm looking forward to seeing this and the Manchester at some point on the show circuit next year. Tom
  6. 1/72 Canadair CP-107 Argus

    That is a stunning achievement. I love projects like this - really thinking outside the box. Real 'Old School' modelling!
  7. She'll be celebrating her 2nd birthday in January!
  8. I doubt I'll get much more done this coming week, but I've got the bit between my teeth again the moment so you never know! Thanks, Trevor - hopefully the picture of it on the kitchen table (and the fact it barely fits on it!) give a sense of size, too! I'll look forward to seeing you next weekend, then! The rudder hinges were the trickiest part - getting them to fit snugly to the fins themselves was a challenge but as will all things like this, measure thrice, cut once!
  9. Evening all I've dusted this off in time for a trip to Telford and decided to tackle the rudders over the last couple of weeks. You'll have to excuse the terrible photography as I haven't had the time to get the proper camera set up so I've been snapping away with my camera phone in the dark winter evenings... I carefully removed the fins from the stabilsers and using the set of plans I have, cut the shape of the rudder from plastic card. As the real thing is an aerofoil shape, I cut what would become the leading edges from sprue, and mated these to the rudder hinge line: Next up was to add some thicker plastic card to the forward third of the rudders to aid with the thicker forward part of the structure: The thicker forward sections and aerofoil shape were then made up and blended together with filler: They were then primed with filler-primer, sanded sooth with some micromesh, and then I scribed the basic panel detail on to them. The riveting will have to wait as I can't find my riveting tool anywhere at the moment: The rudders now fit nice and snugly to the fins themselves, which have now been reattached to the stabilisers: And here she is sitting pretty on the kitchen table and ready for a trip to Telford next weekend: As you can see I have also started playing around with the propellers, but more of that next time: I'll hopefully catch some of you at the Nationals - the Shackleton will be on IPMS West Kent so do pop over and say hello! Tom
  10. 1/48 GWH Mig-29 9.12

    With the greatest of respect, the weathering seems rather over-done for a Polish MiG-29. Even the 'weathered' ones are fairly clean and glossy - I've not seen one looking as heavily weathered as this. Google 'Polish MiG-29' and you'll see what I mean. That's not to say it isn't pleasing on the eye - it's just not a life-like finish for a Polish aircraft. I'm bucking the tend here, I know... Tom
  11. Boeing 777-306ER - KLM

    Hi Mike, I can't recall for certain (wow - this was finished three years ago - time flies!) but I have a feeling it was Ford Riviera Blue over white primer. I'll have a rummage in the shed over the weekend and see if I have the can left in store and let you know for definite. All the best, Tom
  12. B-17 questions

    Yes this is correct. The last two batches of Douglas built F models had the chin turret installed. They left the factory without cheek guns fitted and had the earlier F style top turret dome. In regard to an earlier question about some G models having their chin turrets removed - this is also correct but was mainly done by the 94th and 398th bomb groups late in hostilities in an attempt to increase speed and bomb load when the Luftwaffe threat was greatly diminished. In some instances, a single hand-held .50 cal was installed in the nose transparency similar to that fitted in the earlier F model.
  13. Old Airfix B-17 Bit o Lace

    It's great seeing an old classic being given a new lease of life! For information, B-17s were unpainted internally, being left in natural aluminium. Only the flightdeck was painted in bronze green - interior green was never used in B-17 production. Cockpit sidewalls were covered in an olive green padding. Thought I'd let you know in case you wanted to change it before you've closed the fuselage and it's too late! Wheel bays were also left in natural metal. All the best, Tom
  14. The only magazine I subscribe to is Air Modeller. It's expensive but is released bi-monthly which spreads the cost nicely. The main reason buy it is due to the quality of the modelling. Most articles are well written and photographed, and although the weathering can be a bit OTT on some builds, they're generally excellent. And, shock horror, there's a good deal of scratchbuilding that goes on, rather than reaching for the latest after-market resin accessory that you'd need to sell your house to afford. There's even some articles on vacforms and resin models which make for a refreshing change, rather than the latest shake and bake Tamiya/Hasegawa (snore) releases that dominate most other magazines. A bit of old school modelling that makes for a jolly good read - and plenty each month to inspire you, too! For me, Model Airplane International comes a close second - Spencer Pollard's fantastic 1/24th Harrier T4 conversion was epic!
  15. Interesting B-17 camo scheme

    The blotches are most likely to be Medium Green. B-17s arrived in the ETO in standard olive drab over neutral grey, but it was decided that with the chances of the Luftwaffe attacking airfields (keep in mind the 8AF started arriving in 1942) that extra camouflage was needed to break up the outline of the aircraft whilst at dispersal. There was some guidance sent through from 8AF HQ which stated that medium green blotches should be painted onto the leading and trailing edges of flight surfaces and the vertical tail, as well as along the upper fuselage. As this was applied in the field, it varied hugely between aircraft and bomb groups. Sometimes, RAF Dark Green was used when US supplied Medium Green ran short. The fading you can see can see on the elevators and ailerons is due to the fact that they were fabric covered and faded far more quickly than the metal skinned airframe. I suspect the different coloured stabiliser is due to tricks of the light - it's possibly in the shadow of the tail fin. Tom