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  1. All models of Fortress were unpainted internally. Never, at any point in B-17 production, was US Interior Green used. The exposed metal in the flight deck was the only ‘officially’ painted area, according to the Boeing construction manual. This was Dark Dull and later Bronze Green. Humbrol 149 is your friend here. The rest of the flight deck walls were covered in an olive green padding. Nose, radio room, rear fuselage and tail were all natural metal. The bomb bay was unpainted too, other than some mid-batch F models that were delivered with neutral gray bomb bays. As others have stated, an olive green padding and canvass would be found in the nose and radio room of B-17s but this was dispensed with during F-model production. Floors were natural wood with rubber (black) anti-slip matting. However, with multiple factories being supplied by hundreds of subcontractors there would be some variations to the above. There are pictures of odd components in zinc chromate primer but these are very few and quite rare. To answer your query about a Fortress III, which is in essence a B-17G: these were delivered, minus a few exceptions, straight from USAAF stock and were modified upon arrival in the UK. They did receive numerous mods and there is anecdotal evidence that the nose sections and waist areas were painted internally to reduce glare from searchlights. Despite many years of research, I’ve never been able to find anything definitive on this. Whether these areas were RAF interior green or black, I simply cannot pin down. RAF B-17s were notoriously camera-shy due to their highly sensitive jamming equipment etc., so pictures are quite hard to come by - and those you can find don’t show the interior. In short, paint it as you wish as no one will be able to prove you wrong! I hope that helps - and good luck with the build. Tom EDIT: to answer your original question, I’d say the bottom centre tin (number 116?) is probably the closest shade for the cockpit metal areas of the tins you’ve pictured.
  2. Absolutely incredible. You, Sir, are seriously talented. What a model. Tom
  3. I have the exact same kit with the same decal set in my stash and on my 'to do list' so I'll watch this with great interest Tom
  4. What an incredible model! My dad has this kit in his stash and seeing it in its 'raw state' makes what you've achieved here even more worthy of praise. One to be very proud of. Tom
  5. Just catching up with this - and more specifically the printed cockpit parts. The mind continues to boggle. You're good... very good. Tom
  6. Thanks - and it will live in my attic along with the rest of the fleet of 1/32nd scale monsters. Room is getting rather tight, though!
  7. That’s an absolute stunner, Alan. I’m building the single seat version of this and you’re being somewhat generous in calling it merely ‘awkward’ to put together! I was really disappointed in this kit and although I never shy away from a challenge this has certainly tested my patience to the limit! The excellent result you’ve achieved is testament to your modelling skills - it’s a beauty and masks the shortfalls of this kit very well indeed. Bravo! Tom
  8. It’s fine and supports the model without any problems. However, I have not put any nose weight in and the tail prop means four points of contact with the ground. If it had had the recommended 300g of ballast in the nose I think the brass replacement legs would have been a must. Thank you - and yes I always feel the B-24 didn’t get the credit it deserved. It’s a bit like the Lancaster/Halifax, or Spitfire/Hurricane. Considering it was a Liberator that was first to complete 25 missions in the ETO and not a certain well-documented B-17 sums up the situation nicely.
  9. Thanks, gents - I glad you liked the weathering as I wanted some tonal variation but nothing 'in your face' - appreciated! Tom
  10. Many thanks, John - appreciated! I gave the transparent parts a quick once over with some plastic polish when I was working in the top turret, but even before they were crystal clear. I think if you were clever with the main spar you could keep the wings as detachable which would help with storage. And yes, the main gear always looks like it’s about to collapse but apparently it was very strong and very reliable - the only mod during its entire production run was to increase the gauge of metal to cope with increased weights as the aircraft evolved. The wheel bay did mean it was a structural weak point, however, and pictures of Libs going down with the outer wing missing are sadly all too common. Thanks, Alan - and yes I have decided not to invest in the Invader. I’m not too concerned by accuracy issues on the whole, but even I can’t stomach that mess of a kit. And such a beautiful aircraft too. I think I’ll keep my eyes peeled for an ID Models one. Excellent! Do crack on! Thanks, Steve. Coming from the master of neatness himself, that’s appreciated! The red surrounds do add a nice splash of colour. It’s a shame this style of insignia didn’t last long! And yes it’s big - just over a metre in span… or a smidgen over 3ft on old money. Many thanks @Maginot
  11. I've put the finishing touches to this 1/32nd scale B-24 over the Bank Holiday weekend and took advantage of some spring sunshine to take some pictures of the completed model outside in natural light. I've been working on this on and off for a year or so, and it has been the ideal project to pick up and do a bit to as and when I felt like it. This model doesn't get the best press but I must say I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. You can spend a fortune on after-market improvements if you wish, but other than some seat belts, resin wheels and gun barrels, this is how it comes in the box. The interior is crammed with detail and took a long time to complete - excellent value for your money when you compare it to the price of the other 1/32nd 'heavies' on the market. Fit was excellent throughout and the only filler used was to deal with a small gap along the underside of the nose where, I believe, I hadn't got the interior aligned as perfectly as I could. The turrets, however, are a weak point of the kit. It's been well documented that the rear turret (and forward turret on the J-version) have a very visible seam right down the middle. Aftermarket replacements are currently sold out so instead I used the kit rear turret and painted the mating surfaces black before gluing and this has made the unsightly join a little less conspicuous. For some reason Hobby Boss put heavy framing on the upper turret which doesn't exist on any B-24 turret I've seen, so this was sanded off and the dome given a good polish so it now better represents the Martin turret fitted to this model of Liberator. I didn't want to risk putting the colossal amount of nose weight into this as I was using the kit's plastic landing gear (which is perfectly strong enough to cope with the weight of the 'un-weighted' model) so I made a tail strut as was so often put in place when B-24s are parked on the ground. The kit doesn't come with the most inspiring of schemes for an olive drab B-24, so I did a bit of research on 'Satan's Angels' and painted the model to represent this aircraft as it would have looked in the autumn of 1943 with the group insignia on the tail and the short-lived red surround to the stars and bars. This aircraft was actually written off in a landing accident at Lympne in Kent, when the nose wheel collapsed and it ended up in a ditch on 13th November of that year. I used Kits World national insignia as well as the Profimodeller stencil set. All in all a very enjoyable build, and if you want a large 1/32nd bomber that doesn't break the bank but still gives you plenty of detail, I thoroughly recommend this kit. All the best, Tom Consolidated B-24D Liberator, 'Satan's Angels' of the 328th Squadron of the 93rd Bomb Group, based at Hardwick, Suffolk, Autumn 1943.
  12. Wow - knowing what a rough kit that is (I took one look in the box and quickly sold my one on!) you've done a great job! Tom
  13. Two beauties there - lovely finish on the pair of them. And fear not… you aren’t the first and certainly won’t be the last to paint the chevron black! All the best, Tom
  14. It looks the business, Dick - despite the trials and tribulations. The scheme makes a nice change from the US examples that are more commonly seen. I’ve got this in the stash waiting patiently for its time - it sounds as if it might be a long build… All the best, Tom
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