DIO Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellduck Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 It does seem like there some alignment issues with the intake. But my mk 1 eyeball may easily be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntPhillips Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 This is just getting silly now , and as an engineer I would advise that the view you have elected to illustrate, is hardly the best one to judge any potential alignment issues. I have every confidence that AMK will get this right, and that the kit will be as good and as well engineered as their MiG-31 kit. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotics Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, hellduck said: It does seem like there some alignment issues with the intake. But my mk 1 eyeball may easily be wrong. What the Hellduck are you doing man...? Don't you have a stash to build? Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 hours ago, hellduck said: It does seem like there some alignment issues with the intake. But my mk 1 eyeball may easily be wrong. I'm not sure what to make of this comment. Trolling, or an attempt at humour? Post one... probably best to not rise to the bait here guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntPhillips Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Mike said: Trolling, or an attempt at humour? Post one... probably best to not rise to the bait here guys. I tried boss, I don't know if its me but this particular project by AMK seems to have attracted an unfair amount of knockers, I'm not saying that it's all been negative, there's a lot of good and useful information from some very knowledgeable sources, and on the whole it's been discussed in a fairly civilised manner, but the red line thing really grates with me. I sincerely hope AMK take it all on board, and I look forward to seeing something more than CAD images soon and hopefully that will bring an end to the nay saying from certain quarters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 The designer Sio is a very diligent chap, and I have no doubt he'll do his level best to give us an accurate Tomcat. That much I'm sure of 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 In case anyone cares (which, apparently you don't), Hellduck re-posted an image posted to AMK's FB page. The concern raised by the person who posted that image was basically: on the real jet, the lower intake lip is parallel with the upper intake lip (and ramp hinges, etc; basically, square to the intake centreline) in PLAN VIEW. Per their CAD renders, the AMK kit has the lower lip swept back. If the lips were parallel, the red and yellow lines would be parallel; the fact that they're not indicates the kit is wrong. Now, ALL THAT BEING SAID, I'm not 100% convinced that the lower lips are perfectly parallel on the real jet. From a cursory investigation, it looks to me like they could be swept a couple of degrees WRT. the intake centreline. But for anyone who is wondering, THAT is what is being referenced by the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) But is that CAD from before they tweaked things from the recent comments? Looks all parallel in this shot to each other. Edited October 10, 2016 by Tbolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 No idea. It's from an earlier CAD render, so they might have tweaked it. But AFAIK AMK haven't commented on it one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntPhillips Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 The thing is the red and yellow lines are added afterwards, free hand using another program, there is no guarantee that they line up precisely with the lines on the CAD drawing, and if they don't line up precisely then that smallest of errors is then amplified along the length of the line, and becomes exaggerated as a critical error with the design, whereas it could just be an error in the superimposition of the line onto the drawing. And as ICMF has mentioned there is nothing to state the age of the CAD drawing, it could be that it has already beend amended, I don't blame AMK for playing their cards close to their chest at this stage. I want this kit to be as accurate as possible and I'm sure AMK want it to be too. With the pedigree of their last couple of kits I'm sure we'll get one he'll of a kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin @ AMK Hobby Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Everything has been taken on board and any changes required have been made. To be honest, there’s quite some work to make a model kit and all the help given is gratefully received but as to the need to report back on every change with a dedicated post and lines on the cad to “prove it” only takes valuable time away from making the kit. As I said before, we are grateful for the help and you are being listened to. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotics Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Well put Martin, Now it's time for the nays sayers, scrutinizers and critics to be thankful... Have a good one! Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushande Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) Hello gentlemen, just like most, if not all of you I'm anxiously waiting for the AMK release. I hope I won't be too much of a nagg but could I ask any of those in the know if there is also a set of CLOSED GE110 burner cans planned or if we are going to be stuck with the open ones again? Just asking because the open position is mainly only selected during idle mode or in full blower but if anyone intents to build a launch dio or portray the kitty in flight the nozzle position to go with would be a full dry military power mode, i.e. nozzles fully or at least partially closed. It certainly wouldn't be a big issue or a turn off if there wasn't such an option but I for once think I wouldn't be the only one being happy about such an option. Cheers Edited October 13, 2016 by bushande 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salomon Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Can't wait for the AMK Tomcat release. The true is the Kfir, fouga magister also the hugh mig-31 aren't really my favory airplaines, but the fit is so great and each build is a great moment for me, so yes I know it's buildable and I hope the Tomcat should better than the mig-31. Do you planning some exotic airplaine Martin? as the Viggen family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kaeck Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) On 2016-10-10 at 11:49 AM, hellduck said: It does seem like there some alignment issues with the intake. But my mk 1 eyeball may easily be wrong. I first thought you were on Tamiya's payroll but they would never be that stupid hiring you to demoralize the competition....... The intake trunks are not a right angle to the ground.... You have drawn a straight line in 2d..... Do the math.... Edited October 13, 2016 by Matt Kaeck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Matt Kaeck said: they would never be that stupid hiring you to demoralize the competition....... The intake trunks are not a right angle to the ground You have absolutely no idea what you're looking at, do you? Oh, irony! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIO Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) I think we made the point, Martin has heard, and if it requires, changes will be made. Might not, again all good. All the rest, is useless... I wonder, are we rude by nature and find web as a way to demonstrate that, or it is the web anonymity that drives us mad (including myself).. Edited October 13, 2016 by DIO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy wood Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Dio I have to say this site prides itself on the friendliness displayed amongst it's users. Just occasionally, however..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin @ AMK Hobby Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 On 10/13/2016 at 10:00 AM, bushande said: I hope I won't be too much of a nagg but could I ask any of those in the know if there is also a set of CLOSED GE110 burner cans Yes there will be 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hit Or Miss Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) LAU-138 BOL _FOUR_ LAU-7 on correct glove upper pylon ROVER datalink antenna for Phoenix Pallet Optics detail (even just a decal) inside TCS barrel TCS/IRST in clear or with clear optics barrels. ECA Enhanced Chaff Adaptor ALQ-167 Bullwinkle ECM Augment Optional AAAM Pallet Optional High Power SARH Illuminator Pod Correct fin spacing trough inserts for AIM-7M/MH and E/F TARPS-CD (R) (there is an extra rear cockpit side console panel to run the digital camera with) Optional PTID and Hand Controller for late era D-Bombcats VF-2 low viz markings with grey sash VF-1 reduced visibility (small pinstripe, small star and bar) LGG markings VF-111 full-tail low viz sunset markings VF-84 'White' Markings Optional Sparrowhawk HUD Iraq Mission Markings AIMVAL Markings (Splinter Scheme Masks Or Template) Optional Ladyfinger Emulator quads Optional SS-2D 'AGILE' Emulator Optional VTAS helmet Optional TVSU optics barrel F110 with complete inner/outer sleeves Positive Fit/Jig Keys for Flaps/Slats/Gear Doors AIM-9P, Iran AIM-23, Iran Clear Navlights Navlight and Canopy/Windscreen Masks In-Box AAQ-25 LDS In-Box Correct GPS Antenna Pilot/RIO PE Belts Compatible With Pilot/RIO Separate Slime Lights and Decals (install after main assembly) Positive Fit between nose and fuselage Instrument Panels with drilled bezel holes, clear acetate backing, decal and black rear piece. General thoughts... Edited November 14, 2016 by Hit Or Miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I didn't understand any of the above but if it comes out as good as the Mig-31 I'll buy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Any more updates on this one Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Kurt? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Martin is probably on his way to Telford. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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