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  1. Yes. For nearly a decade. I know what I'm talking about. More specifically, I know what it costs. And because of that knowledge, this raises several alarm bells for me. Even though I'd love to see a large-scale 727 kit, there is absolutely no way I would invest in this. Not because I'm worried that it may not be very good, but because I have little confidence that there will be any kit whatsoever. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe everything will work out fine. But personally, I'd rather buy a lottery ticket - it's cheaper, with a bigger upside, and I'm more confident in the odds.
  2. Okay: Why are you 'crowdfunding' in the first place? You would lose less money if you just developed the kit on your own and put it on sale. If you as a business can't afford to fund the (relatively paltry) $600 development costs, how can customers expect you to pay the much larger ($6000+) production costs. For anyone who has put money into this, or is thinking of putting money into this, here are some figures to consider: A hollow, 1/72 727 fuselage, with a wall thickness of 2mm will use about .36L - 454g - of resin. (note: this does not include support material, which will increase materials/print costs) Formlabs' basic resin costs $150/L. This means the fuselage alone will cost $54 in materials if it's printed in-house. (note: this does not include consumables like resin vats, IPA, gloves, power costs or depreciation) Stratasys' resin is about $325/kg. This means the fuselage would cost $140 in resin alone if it's outsourced. (note: again, this does not include any of the $200/kg support material, and assumes the service works for free) This is just for the fuselage. Again, the wings, tail, engines and undercarriage will easily double the material volume. So as a basic, back of the envelope calculation, the raw materials for the kit will cost between $100 - 300 at an absolute minimum. The cheapest shipping option USPS has to ship a 1kg box from the US to the UK is $35. Priority mail is $60. In other words, your pre-order price for a very expensive kit doesn't even cover the cost of shipping(!). By way of comparison: a 1/72 Boeing 727 fuselage would use (at least) 17x more resin than the 1/160 M88 listed on their website, which they are selling for $5 more than the 727 pre-order. And that doesn't include shipping. Depending on your payment method, you will have anywhere between 30 - 180 days to demand a refund if you change your mind. After that, you are entirely at the mercy of the seller. Maybe everything will work out fine and people actually will get an acceptable kit at the end of the day, but I am extremely skeptical. If a deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Buyer beware. (and I'd note: this goes for the Yak as well - I'm seeing some alarming things in that thread, too - it's just not as obviously egregious as 'crowdfunding' what should be a $500+ kit for less than the price of postage.)
  3. You don't have any idea what the final production costs will be? That's alarming. A rough cost estimate should be one of the first things any business does when looking into a new project. From my back-of-the-envelope estimate, it will cost you about $150 to print a simple hollow tube the size of a 1/72 727 fuselage on an MJM machine. Adding wings, engines, tail and other details will easily double that, meaning it will cost you, out of pocket, $300 or more to manufacture every single kit. Which means that you will lose $270+ on every single 'pre-order'. That seems... untenable. Switching to FDM would drop your costs, but not by that much. It will still cost you more than $30 to print each kit, especially if you're outsourcing production. It would also mean a dramatic reduction in quality - Z-axis resolution will probably be 2 - 4x coarser, and X/Y resolution will be an order of magnitude lower. It might be acceptable on a solid display model, but it's not going to be sufficient for what most scale modellers expect. And again, it's still going to cost you far more than $30 to manufacture each kit. Simply put, you are currently selling a tiny 1/160 scale tank for $35. There is no way you can manufacture a 1/72 727, via 3D printing, for less than that. Shipping alone, from the US to the UK, will cost at least $25 - 35. So, since you've said you're all about transparency, here are a few questions your posts have raised for me: You are trying to raise $600 to produce the kit - 20 orders @ $30. What specifically is that money being used for? And how will you fund the $6000+ that it will cost to manufacture those 20 kits? What is your development timeline? When do you expect to start designing the kit? When will you start prototyping? When will you start production? Why are you using an e-commerce storefront rather than an established crowdfunding web site? A crowdfunding site would offer peace of mind via recompense for backers if the project falls through. With your e-commerce storefront, customers will have as little as 60 days from the date of purchase to demand a refund if things go south. After that, all they have is your word that you'll refund their money. I would also ask who else is involved in the project? You're giving the impression that there is a large team behind the company, yet you seem to be the only person who is publicly visible. Who are the other executive officers? Where are you actually located. Your website says 'Central New York', but your profile says you're in California. Oh, and one more: why is your website still showing "Only 20 units left!" even after people have signed up? Why isn't that number going down?
  4. How much will the kit sell for once it's released?
  5. How exactly will the production kits be made? There's basically no information on the website that I can see, and the materials cost alone would be far more than $30 in MJM or SLA resin.
  6. Not sure I'd splash out on a BM conversion set. ICM seem to be covering the major variants and the most obvious choice for a future release; I'd almost be more surprised if they didn't announce one within the next year or so. The masters look nice, but unless I needed one TODAY, I'd be inclined to wait and see.
  7. My local hobby shop actually has one of these kits in stock. For $90. LOL.
  8. Totally forgot about this. Sorry! The Barracuda nose *does not* fit the ICM kit. It (and the KH kit) is about 2mm wider and higher than the ICM nose - the ICM nose is basically the size of the inner lip on the KH parts. Filing/sanding wouldn't do enough, you'd basically have to shrink-ray the part down. I'd suggest trying to swap your kit for a PD boxing, or else wait and see if someone releases another recce variant. There are so many specific sub-types, once the aftermarket gets a feel for what ICM plans to release, I'm sure we'll see some aftermarket conversions.
  9. I have the parts and can test later. I can't imagine it'll be a great fit, though - the Barracuda set was designed to be an exact, drop-fit replacement for the kit parts, so they're more or less a perfect fit on the Kitty Hawk kit. It's unlikely that the cross-section will be identical on the ICM kit, so at a minimum you'll need to sand and fill some contours. The Barracuda exhausts do fit the ICM kit pretty well, though.
  10. ICMF

    1/48 MiG 15 new tool

    That may not even be for a model kit. There are a number of parties who could be interested in reproducing an aircraft for some reason - flight sims/video games, die cast manufacturers or even film makers (or people who create assets for CG) all spring to mind.
  11. ICMF

    1/72 - MiG-21 Fishbed by Eduard

    Maybe they just couldn't see any difference between the UM and MF noses?
  12. ICMF

    1/72 - MiG-21 Fishbed by Eduard

    Well to be fair to Eduard, you only have to pay $33 if you're a foreigner. If you're Czech, they'll only charge you $20 for the kit.
  13. ICMF

    MFH 1/12 Porsche 917/30

    Pics of the build have started going up. Wonder if they'll include a jig to assemble the wheels? Price will likely be ¥65,000 - 70,000 (­£450 - 500/$610 - 660)
  14. That was my immediate thought, too. The catalogue doesn't say it's a new tool, it says it's a "new tool".
  15. ICMF

    Ask all your Sea Fury questions here

    Additionally... and starboard: Oh, and don't forget the air vent on the wing tip lights.
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