Ex-FAAWAFU Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 STOP! Step slowly away from the bench. No sudden movements. Now go back to the reference shots of the damaged cab on deck. Do you see any intake grilles? Cos I don’t. They’re there in the photo of A.N. Other MAD-fitted Lynx taken from BW’s hangar roof, but it appears they weren’t on 25 May. [I suspect they’re two different airframes; trying to keep track of which airframes were in which ship on a given day during the campaign is really hard - since not all cabs were Skua capable at that stage and only a few were MAD-fitted, they probably moved around depending on the ship’s tasking on a given day]. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 I see what you mean Crisp This shot from the oiler No obvious filter mesh Nor here but When we zoom in I am not sure if I'm seeing the red 'remove before'... Or the hole in the intake area This view you mention definitely does have them Maybe a set of red covers over the hole might do... Just checking, a thin yellow tip on the blade ends? Roughly an inch anna half in from the tips 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I just dropped by with a fresh cuppa Cha to see how things were doing and ended up staying for five pages! Epic minimodelling, Bill. Lovely damage work. So it's all hands on deck for the next bit eh? (ahem) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 16 minutes ago, Pete in Lincs said: I just dropped by with a fresh cuppa Cha to see how things were doing and ended up staying for five pages! Epic minimodelling, Bill. Lovely damage work. So it's all hands on deck for the next bit eh? (ahem) You are always welcome Pete, hope you like it Gotta decide about red RBF Covers or nothing... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I reckon no RBF intake blanks, because there are no covers on the exhausts (as there are in the colour photo from the tanker) - I’d expect none or both. No idea whatsoever why the access panel to the starboard side of the MRGB was open. And yes, thin yellow tip on the blades 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Thinking a bit more, the cab seen from above has Orange Crop, but the damaged cab doesn’t; they’re definitely different airframes (though still a useful photo, for which thanks to my friend John “Foxy” Connell, WAFU ninja). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 OK none, and thin yellows I'd wondered whether the Orange Crop was taken away by the impact or not, now with your assistance its to be plain with no blanks and no Orange Crop. Cheers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 The nose OC aerial would have been well & truly destroyed by the impact, but the other 4 (aircraft sides and on stub-wings) wouldn't - and they are not visible in any photos. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 The final committed version is now decided, thanks for your and Ralph's essential input..I'll take a few definitive pictures after the model has been to club tomorrow. I think this can go to a RFI next too 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 That Lynx is something special Bill. Rather Talen of Mars 👽 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 On 15/03/2024 at 08:18, Ex-FAAWAFU said: I reckon no RBF intake blanks, because there are no covers on the exhausts (as there are in the colour photo from the tanker) - I’d expect none or both. Totally agree. IIRC, FOD guards were not fitted when the OAT was below 3 deg or there was any risk of flight in icing conditions. Any in any case, the RBF blank with no FOD guard was a foam insert. On 15/03/2024 at 08:18, Ex-FAAWAFU said: No idea whatsoever why the access panel to the starboard side of the MRGB was open. Well somebody's got to do the After Flight Servicing 🤣 Great work Bill. That's a seriously impressive model. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 Thank you for that Ralph, once again coming up with the goods. I had heard about the icing risk guard removal, so that covers things nicely. Club this afternoon where this will share the competition with some wonderful modellers, real finger crossing time this afternoon. But hey even if the model isn't popular I have really enjoyed the making of it, so far out of my zone there was never going to be any comfort. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 XZ729 was well received at the club yesterday but. Is anyone up for a ride to unknown places? My bench is littered with failed pieces of Lynx that need a purpose in life and I need to learn unexplored depths of modelling like Clay for a moulded cast part, if I could just find a rear upper body section elsewhere available trust me, I wouldn't bother. I sat this morning with that fuselage and a finely warmed up dollop of plasticene, making what might have been an acceptable engine section but knowing how poor it would be for making a casting from. And there has been a packet of Pebeo sitting in a drawer just decimetres from my left elbow but which has been intimidating me silently. "You dumb pillock you don't have a clue how to use it, haven't even tried youtube which is bound to be full of advice!" I do wish I had gone to tech drawing and modelling classes as a mere child, before my concentration powers were diminished by modelling Kryptonite, I know clay modelling figured greatly in automotive classes and might have learnt how to. However I didn't so I must suck it up and get on This is a much different 'hump' to the Lynx one and since I plan to make one of these super babies the new hump seems the way ahead for me. Moving on Hmm it does feel a bit like plasticene at first, I wonder if that will last? I have noticed that as it 'handles' it becomes less friendly but not as aggressively as the packet of DAS I tried recently... It seems I cannot just walk away from the task 'til later. Into a plastic bag with a dampened tissue and a seal to be kept in the dark, cool space. And then into the dark cupboard space Which is where I keep the button lathe Tony sent me, the UV curing resin in its darkened bottle hides there too away from UV radiations. 'Spect that later today I will find that I wish I'd used Milliput... 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 just when you think the ride has come to the end... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 3 hours ago, hendie said: just when you think the ride has come to the end... Beginning to wish it had talk about self harm... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 I might still have preferred Milliput but for now the experiment continues It is certainly mouldable with fingers and small palette knives, I am wondering whether it will be sandable after drying though. In the mean time the shape begins to appear in the tissue dampened plastic bag I wonder what kind of filler might work if any, back into damp tissue limbo again until the morrow. laters... 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 This is't going to work for me, simply not sufficient materials handling experience I'm afraid but until I give up and buy a fresh* load of Milliput I am going to see how far I can take it. You never know... This morning I awoke and had a fresh morning random memory. Slip it said, you need slip, which I remembered from my second year at St Phils, Art first year, Ceramics second year and Woodwork from the first year on Thursdays. Ceramics had me making a little pot from clay worms and next an elephant of dubious shape and colour. Swiftly drawing a veil over them although mom loved them, I remembered having to use slip to join stuff together, and I think maybe to make oddball additional shapes. Thinning out airdying clay eventually gives a kind potentially useable slip-type-thinn, apologies to 'those that know' for goons reference inherent in that awful pun. Using the thinned clay as an adhesive/quasi fresh component I made the 'ear-style jet pipe extensions and had another attempt to refine the bulky roof shape. Poor but not awful, huh? Be warned, this thread could disappear into the ether at any time, I hate this stuff How the very hell does one make it smooth without overindulging in wetness that will undoubtedly result in fault lines as the clay dries? I dont know but I feel a call to my LMS for fresh Milli coming any morning soon... 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just a suggestion... would it be easier to build the shape up in small stages rather than try and capture the full shape in one go? That way you can refine each stage before proceeding to the next lumpy bit 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Come on Bill, you can do it. Maybe next time try wax for you carving needs, nice and forgiving under the knife. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 36 minutes ago, hendie said: Just a suggestion... would it be easier to build the shape up in small stages rather than try and capture the full shape in one go? That way you can refine each stage before proceeding to the next lumpy bit That is planb Alan in Milliput but wax Colin? What kind of wax are you thinking of? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 15 minutes ago, perdu said: What kind of wax are you thinking of? Same question here... I'm genuinely interested, BTW, not skeptic. Thanks in advance Ciao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 I looked it up Giorgio, carving wax, used by jewellers amongst other and employed often for lost wax casting. Not for this actual tasking of course but revered for fine carving jobs. If I'd known about it I would have used it from the off, but... This makes me far happier and in some kind of control. New packet obtained whilst out grocery shopping and now I feel I'm driving again. Winning now and the Milli was drying as I was eating my Tuesday evening Steak Night and is now ready for stage one, the Uberfile. I expect you have noticed I've moved from the 'mule' onto the intended AH mk 9A. I do hope I can get something done with the clay model to cast from,' acos buying £20 of carving wax isn't part of plans A to P and must join the queue way back downline so tomorrow we can take a bit of a look at the mule, lets call it Muffin. Tomorrow during other endeavours. I've seen claims that Westlands used left over Whirlwind parts for the AH 9A, bull doody I calls it the actual suspension was more like the swinging frame suspension of US Army Wessexes than the Whirly swing arm. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Great to see Milliput taking its rightful place in this one Bill. Best idea for this sort of work if you ask me! Great stuff as ever. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 I really can work with Milliput, thank gods. Here some of the deliberate excess has been whittled away Still quite a lot to whittle away but at least with Milli I can whittle Unlike the other thing I tried out As this dried out parts of it shrank and there is obviously no room for a file in its future And for durability? Nah, no hope. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Do you have a set of clay modelling spatulas? Something like this.... @CedB look away now... https://www.amazon.com/HTS-154P1-Stainless-Spatula-Sculpting/dp/B01C7X7D2K These are fabulous for miliput. Just dampen the ends and you can get a lovely smooth surface first try! Ian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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