CedB Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Nice hatches Simon, can't wait to see the masks off. Nice paint job too. Those props look pretty 'par for the course' - I invested in a Citadel 'Mouldline Remover' which seems to 'know' what's prop and what's flash - a quick, gentle pull down each side of the prop blade and it's done with no damage. I guess other tools are available (I have some others), but this one seems particularly quick and easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Are those the props that came with the kit? I ask because the props in your photo are the wrong pitch to be on a Bristol engine and they don't look like the props in my B.II kit. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, dogsbody said: Are those the props that came with the kit? I ask because the props in your photo are the wrong pitch to be on a Bristol engine and they don't look like the props in my B.II kit. Chris Oops - well spotted that man. They're the props from my Mk.I (FE) B.III kit. Sorry! It's my age, you know...wibble. Simon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Simon said: Oops - well spotted that man. They're the props from my Mk.I (FE) B.III kit. Sorry! It's my age, you know...wibble. Simon I know all about that age crap! It ain't nice. Though I've finally got the number of functioning brain cells down to a manageable number. Chris 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) On 10/03/2017 at 2:41 AM, dogsbody said: I know all about that age crap! It ain't nice. Though I've finally got the number of functioning brain cells down to a manageable number. Chris I've been working hard at doing that for years now - think I may have gone too far... Anyway, another quick update. I've managed to get the upper surface camouflage done. Here are the horizontal tails (note the internal spars - I had to cut them back to make them fit as the tolerances were so tight): and the upper wings, complete with walkways and the dinghy stowage masked and painted, rather than use the kit's decals: and finally the fuselage: All ready now for the Night undersides, and starting to look like a Lancaster at last! More soon Simon Edited July 4, 2017 by Simon 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Nice paint work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffajake Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Wow. That transition between the two colours is very smooth. Nice job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 ^ Wot they said - great job Simon, very smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Looking magnificent! Martian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Thanks for the kind words everyone. Looking forward to getting the undersides done now! Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) So, another quick update. The lower sides are all done now - here are the wings: I've also added the main undercarriage assemblies, as well as the completed engines: I've also done all the external painting for the fuselage, and so have been able to start some work on the bomb bay. Here ar the two sections of pipework added to the interior walls: Note the cradles for the larger 'Cookie' bombs - I added them before checking my references... According to the 514 Sqn. O.R.B., my Lancaster LL716 was carrying the following bomb load on the Op it was lost - 11 x 1,000lb M.C., and 4 x 500lb G.P., so a load of 15 bombs. Unfortunately Airfix supplies 12 bomb racks, and no bombs (booooo!). From reference photos of preserved Lancs, I'm not sure the racks they supply are right. Here's a shot of the CWHM Lancaster, from Wikipedia: And here are the Airfix racks, top, the ones from the Revell Halifax, and my 'modified' Airfix ones: So, I needed 15 of them, so I've nicked some from my Airfix Lancaster I/III F.E. All I needed to do was to figure out how they'd fit the 15 bombs in the bomb bay, so I reckon it could be like this, with the four 500 pounders up front like this: (There's a photo here on the Lancaster Archive website which shows four smaller bombs crammed in, with two sitting lower on what looks like the racks mounted on a cross-beam). And the 11 1,000 pounders would probably sit in four rows of three, two, three and three respectively: Curiously, Eduard supply different style bomb racks for the Tamiya 1/48 Lanc than they do for the 1/72 Airfix one. Anyway, more soon.. Simon Edited July 4, 2017 by Simon 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 That's some great details, and your painting work is excellent! She's really coming together now. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airbus320 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Superb work! I have this kit and if it looks half as good as yours I'll be chuffed! Regarding the bomb loads, is this any use? http://www.lancaster-archive.com/lanc_bomb_loads.htm Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 That's a near perfect paint finish. I note the tonal variation on the black undersides which is difficult to pull off convincingly, very nice indeed. How did you achieve the effect? Post shading with a lighter shade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 42 minutes ago, Tomoshenko said: That's a near perfect paint finish. I note the tonal variation on the black undersides which is difficult to pull off convincingly, very nice indeed. How did you achieve the effect? Post shading with a lighter shade? Thank you. I pre-shaded black over the grey primer base, then applied very thinly-diluted coats of Xtracrylix Night Black. It breaks up the large areas of blackness well. 13 hours ago, airbus320 said: Superb work! I have this kit and if it looks half as good as yours I'll be chuffed! Regarding the bomb loads, is this any use? http://www.lancaster-archive.com/lanc_bomb_loads.htm Chris Thanks Chris - I'd come across that page already, and it has been very useful. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Looking great, Simon! david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 This is superb. I'm learning much from your way of painting the aircraft in pieces. Also, I note the very subtle modulation of the night undersides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) So, another update for today, and a problem to solve. I'd masked the glazing with Eduard masks, airbrushed them with Xtracrylix, and left them for a day or two to dry. Upon removing the masks, here's what I got: Cockpit: Nose turret: Bomb aimer's blister: What on earth is going on here? The masks have pulled off the paint with them - I've never had this happen before, as the bishop said to the actress. The paint just flakes off - I've managed to remove all of it with just my thumbnail and a wooden cocktail stick to avoid scratching the parts. Is it the paint? Are the transparent parts covered in release agent that affected the adhesion of the paint? Can't be the masks - I've used Eduard masks loads of times before, and never had an issue. I've managed to remove all the paint, washed the parts in soapy water, and ordered some new masks. So, what to do? I've never had to prime transparent parts before, and I don't think that will work anyway. Simon Edited July 4, 2017 by Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 You may have done this but, washing with Klear I believe aids the adhesion of the paint . . . Is the paint old stock ? Did you allow 24hrs at least for drying ? I ask the questions because I am intrigued myself as to why it happened Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mancunian airman said: You may have done this but, washing with Klear I believe aids the adhesion of the paint . . . Is the paint old stock ? Did you allow 24hrs at least for drying ? I ask the questions because I am intrigued myself as to why it happened Ian They were allowed to dry for a couple of days, but the paint is a few years old, so that may be a cause. It's annoying, and as I said I've had this problem before, but it's not the end of the world and hopefully easy to sort out. I'll order some new pots of paint - the Night Black was pretty much empty anyway. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Before removing masks, I always gently cut around the edge of a mask before removing it. This avoids the possibility of paint being pulled away long with the mask. Martian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Bad luck Simon - I've had that problem and I don't know the cause either, but at least you're not alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 That is bad luck, I think running a sharpe knife gently on the edges of the masks is a good shout from martian. cheers Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor44 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The bomb load that you are attempting to have this aircraft has me worried. I have a copy of "The Lancaster Manual", "RAF Museum Series" which shows a total of fifteen locating points for bomb carriers, three abreast per row with five rows, of which the middle location in the bomb bay is reserved for 1 x 4,000lb or 1 x 8,000lb bombs only. This is on page 153 of the above publication. Is it possible that the reference you are quoting for a load of 11 x 1,000lb and 4 x 250lb bombs is incorrect having been incorrectly copied or entered into the records wrongly? Gondor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) Here is a load of 14 1,000lbs bombs showing how they were positioned: my guess is the 4 250lbs bombs were in the second row, 4 across as in the other pics, probably to maintain the center of gravity. So you would have 3 (1K), 4 (250), 2 (1K), 3 (1K) and 3 (1K). edit: here is another pic showing a full load of what look like 500lbs bombs: Jari Edited March 23, 2017 by Finn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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