RAGATIGER Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Hi there Well after a long time I been wondering about the Italeri 1/72 B-58A Delta Bomber now I got a bag complete kit and wondering about what to do to improve it??? So i'm open to sugestions I have a whole bunch of Hasegawa afterburner leftovers from Hasegawa kits so for now that's the only after market I have in hand!!! Thanks in advance Armando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Here is the list from Hannants https://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?search_direction=asc&search=B-58&scale_id=956 . As you can see there are some expensive bits around ! Regards Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Bunker Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I seem to recall the fuselage is the wrong length on this kit, and is pretty well unfixable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-42 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Having finished mine last year, from the “If I did it again.” list. 1. Mask set, the wheel masks will help you keep your sanity. 2. Caracal decals-better than the kit and you can build almost any Hustler. 3. The exhausts are simple, but not that noticeable once it is on the shelf. 4. Add some hinges to the gear doors early in the build, I added some basic ones near the finish line after failing to glue them with a butt joint. 5. Use gloss black for your base colour and mask the wing walks, then spray the metallic finish-much easier than the decals. 6. Hustlers almost always have the elevators and ailerons drooped when parked. 7. The crew hatches fit poorly closed up. 8. Pilots seat should be offset to the left. 9. If you reduce the diameter of the engine fronts, you can deal with the seams in the intakes easier, adding the front part after painting the intakes white. 10. Hardest part of the kit, is the seams for the inner engine pylons where they meet the wing, if you fit them before painting, painting gets much harder. 11. The panel lines are too wide, but if you paint it and sand it back about six times, they look better-multiple primer fails on my part.🙄 Maybe don’t bother with this suggestion! Finally, it is too short, not sure by how much, but it looks like a Hustler, and until a correct one comes out, it looks fine. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I hate to bring the bearer of bad news. *BUT*... The long and short of it, if you want to build an accurate B-58, you'll have your work cut out for you. Italeri, like on their Mirage 2000, confused the fuselage length with the pitot tube (which is not inconsiderate in the Hustler) with the fuselage length without it. This gives the entire kit a crushed look - the kit is about 12% too short, which is quite noticable. Furthermore, this is spread throughout the entire fuselage, the wings and engine pods, also throwing off the wing sweep (again, their Mirage 2000 has the exact same issues). It may look somewhat like a Hustler, but in a certain light* I look somewhat like George Clooney. Cheers, Andre *: (ie., none) 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Womby Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Hook said: ................................................... It may look somewhat like a Hustler, but in a certain light* I look somewhat like George Clooney. Cheers, Andre 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Here's the kit corrected for the length problems: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235053675-convair-b-58-hustler-172/&do=findComment&comment=3318533 Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Had made my TB-58 OOB: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/5342805039/in/dateposted/ modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 21 hours ago, Hook said: Italeri, like on their Mirage 2000, confused the fuselage length with the pitot tube (which is not inconsiderate in the Hustler) with the fuselage length without it. This gives the entire kit a crushed look - the kit is about 12% too short, which is quite noticable. I read the original fault was with the AvNews drawings on which Italeri based their kit. Probably the Aerograph had not yet been published when they tooled the kit (1984?). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 On 1/21/2024 at 7:12 AM, Hook said: I hate to bring the bearer of bad news. *BUT*... The long and short of it, if you want to build an accurate B-58, you'll have your work cut out for you. Italeri, like on their Mirage 2000, confused the fuselage length with the pitot tube (which is not inconsiderate in the Hustler) with the fuselage length without it. This gives the entire kit a crushed look - the kit is about 12% too short, which is quite noticable. Furthermore, this is spread throughout the entire fuselage, the wings and engine pods, also throwing off the wing sweep (again, their Mirage 2000 has the exact same issues). It may look somewhat like a Hustler, but in a certain light* I look somewhat like George Clooney. Cheers, Andre *: (ie., none) And that is what I had read, as well; Italeri either used inaccurate drawings or the wrong OAL figure, and because of that, the kit fuselage was too short,, but the error was spread out throughout the entire length- almost impossible to correct, I would think. A shame, as it's a pretty nice kit. I wish, but doubt we will ever see another state of the art B-58, which is a shame, as it was not only a very unique airplane, it was a beautiful one as well. IIRC, there was also an issue with the shape of the fin. Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, 72modeler said: I wish, but doubt we will ever see another state of the art B-58, which is a shame, as it was not only a very unique airplane, it was a beautiful one as well. IIRC, there was also an issue with the shape of the fin. Mike There is another state-of-the art kit (of sorts) of it, albeit with the state of the art of 65 years ago and in a slightly awkward scale - but I always found the Lindberg 1/64 kit rather impressive, with all its gorgeous (probably spurious) detail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, tempestfan said: There is another state-of-the art kit (of sorts) of it, albeit with the state of the art of 65 years ago and in a slightly awkward scale - but I always found the Lindberg 1/64 kit rather impressive, with all its gorgeous (probably spurious) detail. I have one in the stash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Hook said: I have one in the stash. Who doesn't 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Lambess Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 So if lindberg made the same error is their one actually 1/72nd ?,:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 1/21/2024 at 1:12 PM, Hook said: I hate to bring the bearer of bad news. *BUT*... The long and short of it, if you want to build an accurate B-58, you'll have your work cut out for you. Italeri, like on their Mirage 2000, confused the fuselage length with the pitot tube (which is not inconsiderate in the Hustler) with the fuselage length without it. This gives the entire kit a crushed look - the kit is about 12% too short, which is quite noticable. Furthermore, this is spread throughout the entire fuselage, the wings and engine pods, also throwing off the wing sweep (again, their Mirage 2000 has the exact same issues). It may look somewhat like a Hustler, but in a certain light* I look somewhat like George Clooney. Cheers, Andre *: (ie., none) Italeri must have a problem converting imperial to metric system as they also screwed up the B.57 Canberra. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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