robw_uk Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) Time for some and games.... I love the German quad mounted AA so why not go, "what happens if a Krupp Protze met a 20mm quad AA?.... ". I know there are weight questions so thinking, Lose the windscreen Lose the armour from the 20mm Lose most of the trailer mounts from the 20mm Lose a lot of the side body work from the Krupp.... Let's see how this goes shall we Oh and probably grey with winter whitewash ... Edited March 28 by robw_uk 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 Most of the chassis done. Typical tamiya simplicity (fair few seam lines) but allows poseable steering.... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echen Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Built these years ago. Nice kits. Looking forward to seeing this build develop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psdavidson Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Nice idea. Watching with interest /P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APA Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Did this combo back when I was in short trousers! Nice start and should be a fun project. I particularly liked the AA gun. Nice details as I remember. Andrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeff Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Interesting combination .... I'll follow along! What you've done already looks good. 👍 Keith 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Room for one more? An interesting project Rob will look forward to seeing what you do with this combo Stay safe Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 Can start to see how this might look..... Not sure if I will fill in the whole truck bed.... All just placed at the moment [Url=https://ibb.co/6b0z4bM][/url] 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan Mynar Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Interesting vehicle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Milan Mynar said: Interesting vehicle. Complete what-if.... Think the weight of the AA gun would be an issue in real life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) Don't think you would get me firing this thing ... As the guns swing the seats end up ove the side..... May add small side parts like the quad half track... But maybe not Edited August 13, 2023 by robw_uk 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH1969 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Speaking as a design engineer rather than a modeller I think you have the pivot point/base mount for the gun mount too far back and it should be 10mm forward ie: over the front of the two rear axles, my thinking is this there is to much weight at the back and would cause the front axle to lift whilst driving it would bot be balanced on the chassis. The gunners position would be ok for moving the loader boards would be removed or smaller. Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeff Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 It's interesting to see the 'what if' develop ..... it looks like it could have been an actual thing .... with some minor engineering and design tweeks! Keith 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Perhaps with extensions added for the loaders? But I wonder about the poor thing's springs. Perhaps one of the single 20mm mountings might have been more likely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Eater Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 You're not that far from reality, the single 2cm flak gun was sometimes field mounted onto the Protze. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 I do like your idea of creating something akin to modern "technical". Any why not, practicalities aside it makes for a great and unique model. Atb Darryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 thanks all... had wondered about where it should be mounted... moving it forward (without raising it up) would mean it could only fire forwards (about a 120deg arc... )... but it does look more balanced so will look at mounting there (need to fill in the small gap then at the front of the gun mount - not sure it would be suitable for stowage 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH1969 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Looking much better. Going by the pictures that MIG Eater posted I would raise it up by 3mm as well. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 28 minutes ago, PeteH1969 said: Looking much better. Going by the pictures that MIG Eater posted I would raise it up by 3mm as well. Pete I will have a look at that - will mean more boxes but that I can build... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, robw_uk said: had wondered about where it should be mounted.. Gidday Rob, I've looked at these mountings myself, as I build German warships. There is a seat directly behind the mounting. If the mounting were to train directly astern/behind there may not be enough clearance between that seat and the cabin if positioned as in you last photo. Your decision of course, but have you considered moving the mounting a little further aft so the rotating axis is between the two rear wheel axles? It would put the weight of the mounting over the rear suspension, and give you a bit more clearance for the seat. Also, if the truck bay sides were to fold outward they could create a wider flat surface for the gun crews. I'm a model ship builder myself, but I also like what-ifs. This is certainly an interesting project. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 What if build finished.... Added a few tools in what I hope are logical places...... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH1969 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 That is going to look great when it's done. Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeff Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 That's looking very good .... the quad AA position makes it look as if it's meant to be there .... 👌 Keith 😁 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted September 24, 2023 Author Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) Dunkelgrau..... Edited September 24, 2023 by robw_uk 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robw_uk Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Decals on... Next step Matt varnish the winter camo ... Thinking all upper body work, not horizontal surfaces of flatbed and then the gun..... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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