Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) Hello everybody... This will be my second model in the build, it is Heller’s classic Hawk75/P-36. I have two sets of original decals but doubt I will go French. Here is a color profile of the French option. I was planning on build a USAAC P-36 from Selfridge Field Michigan in 1939. I will be doing it in an experimental camouflage tested during the war games that year. There were multiple aircraft and each had a different pattern applied in water soluble paints. Here is a color guide used that year though on a different aircraft. The only thing I would be missing is the unit badge of the Eagle in the red disk. Please feel free to ask questions, post comments, and or add thoughts. Dennis Edited September 26, 2020 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Again, great to see you here Dennis and building another classic Heller gem. I’ve never seen this Hawk kit although suspect millions have been built since it’s successful introduction back in the mid 60’s. Should be another great WIP to follow. Cheers and welcome.. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 An oldie but goldie, good to see this one in the GB Dennis. Originally issued in 1966! Original catalogue numer L093 but this boxing is 214. Welcome and good luck, I like the unusual camouflage markings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Rabbit Leader said: Again, great to see you here Dennis and building another classic Heller gem. I’ve never seen this Hawk kit although suspect millions have been built since it’s successful introduction back in the mid 60’s. Should be another great WIP to follow. Cheers and welcome.. Dave Yes these are great little kits, makes me sad I never built a heller kit before this year. I built one of these as well earlier this year in the Nordic GB. Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Hi Dennis I built one of these a while back in a previous GB, it goes together really well. The only thing I was warned about is the radial engine looks too small for the cowling. To be honest i built the kit as it came and was very pleased with it. I did the Vichy stripes on mine, blooming nightmare of leaking masking tapes, so i think your camouflage version is inspired ! Best of luck with your build cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, JOCKNEY said: I did the Vichy stripes on mine, blooming nightmare of leaking masking tapes, so i think your camouflage version is inspired ! Best of luck with your build Thanks Pat, I remember that build MTO II if I remember correctly ? This temporary camouflage has and added benefit, I believe it was hand applied so I could go old-school and do this without the A/B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Thanks Pat, I remember that build MTO II if I remember correctly ? This temporary camouflage has and added benefit, I believe it was hand applied so I could go old-school and do this without the A/B. Result ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyOD Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 What a paint job! Looking forward to this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Evening everyone... So Trying to figure out the correct colors for this build I decided to start a thread ip in aviation. I had some very great responses. However I was contacted by Dana Bell himself as the schematic is his original from 1977. He gave a very thorough description of all the colors used by the 27th for these schemes and also emailed me a much much clearer version of the layout schematic. He also gave permission to re-post it here. I now have what I need to move forward on this, and seeing as my MTO GB entries are past painting. I can start this and the Heller 109 in the next day or two. Please feel free to check the link out if you're curious about these aircraft, or if you have any questions. Dennis 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I believe I built this in mistercraft guise for last years p-40 STGB, best of luck no major issues just it’s an old kit with all that entails 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Good morning everyone...Well I was able to get a start on these today. The nice thing about heller kits is they go together quick. I painted the interior bits and then sealed it up. Belts will be added tomorrow or the next day, control column after painting. This kits old enough to not have an instrument panel. Being that the canopy will be closed i wont be bothering. Just a little gap at the wing root to radiator and rear fuselage. Once this sets up I can do what sanding, filling, re-scribing I will need. Please feel free to ask questions, post comments, and or add thoughts. Dennis 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Quick work Dennis, at this rate you'll soon be painting your model! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I suspect painting will take a bit longer than putting it together, looking at the colour scheme! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 hours ago, JeroenS said: I suspect painting will take a bit longer than putting it together, looking at the colour scheme! I suspect you're correct in your assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 Good morning everybody... I was able to get around and completely finish sanding, filling, and re-scribing on this and the 109 tonight. This one wasn't as good on fit after sanding and polishing the plastic, so it required a bit more filling than the 109. My plan is to add the gun housings on the upper cowling and exhausts tomorrow sometime. Then over the weekend get a start on the paint. I will base coat this in aluminum and add roundels. In a couple of the photo’s some of the underside roundels in particular were faintly visible through the distemper. I will try to go for that effect on this. Please feel free to ask questions, post comments, and or add thoughts. Dennis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Looking good. Should be interesting seeing the scheme come alive. Could you take pictures of the various stages please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Looks like an oldie but goodie. Nice progress. You get operating flaps? The scheme looks like someone grabbed one of everything from the paint store! Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, JeroenS said: Looking good. Should be interesting seeing the scheme come alive. Could you take pictures of the various stages please? Thanks Jeroen I sure can, be happy to do it. I’m still of two minds wether to go old school hairy brush or airbrush on the camo on ? Any thoughts ? 2 minutes ago, AdrianMF said: Looks like an oldie but goodie. Nice progress. You get operating flaps? Regards, Adrian Thanks Adrian, No I just scribed them to a point where they're flexible bend them and Tamiya extra thin to harden them up again. Takes about 5-7 minutes in total and definitely makes a bit of visual difference. Provided you don't look up inside the cavern that is the fuselage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: I’m still of two minds wether to go old school hairy brush or airbrush on the camo on ? Any thoughts ? Will you be masking? If not, then brush, else airbrush would be my 2 cents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, JeroenS said: Will you be masking? If not, then brush, else airbrush would be my 2 cents. If I go airbrush I will go with either paper masks, the schematic Dana bell provided is almost exactly 1/72 scale and couldve been designed for this kit. Or I will use tac worms, I’m not sure yet as I havent really brushed a model in almost 35 years, last one I did was a 1/48 Monogram Mirage 2000. It was also what made me switch to airbrush, enamels, crappy brushes, and lack of skill didn't work out in the end. Been airbrushing with only a couple years when I came back to building and didn't have an A/B. I used rattle-cans then. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just seen this, Dennis. Go French!!! Too late, I know ........... ;( Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Hi Dennis I just noticed Lavender is one of the camouflage colours, you must have a very extensive paint range ! Cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toryu Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I would brush it in the traditional way, Dennis, because the original was brushed too and it shows irregular colour depth and brush sweeps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 9 hours ago, RidgeRunner said: Just seen this, Dennis. Go French!!! Too late, I know ........... ;( Martin It is my second option but the original roundels are suspect, and Ive no replacements. Rest assured a French hawk will be done as well as a Mohawk someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 4 hours ago, JOCKNEY said: Hi Dennis I just noticed Lavender is one of the camouflage colours, you must have a very extensive paint range ! Cheers Pat According to Dana its a lighter shade of Neutral grey, the old photo’s give a red hue to the grey so most likely will do it that way. I will use neutral grey with a few drops of white and possibly red to alter the tone ever so slightly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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