JWM Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Hi, This seems to be a good opportunity to reduce my stash by all three Do 17 s present there. They are: 1. Airfix Do 17 Z 2. RS Do 17 K (long nacelles) 3. RS Do 17 P The boxes: An their contents: The "Z" I want to do from BoB or France, nevertheless from 1940, western front. The K will be Yugoslavian, but I am not decided yet if the one from times of Kingdom of Y., Croatia or partizan/end of war... The P will be from Balkans 1941, They will complete what I have so far on shelves: 1. SCW Do 17 F 2. Luftwaffe Do 215 B5 3&4. Two Do 217s I a bit apologize, that I will do them mostly OOB and that I will not start very rapidly since I have now 5 kits on the workbench.... To be continued Regards J-W 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Well that's a challenge good luck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Wow Jerzy, you are really going for it in this GB Best of luck with these. Cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Can't wait to see these! Following 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 Thnaks for encouraging! I took frame out of boxes yesterday. First of all both RS kits has a lot of push out of mold unwanted additions and some more without explanation, generally parts require pre-treatment: The "long nacelles" Yugoslavian K requires surgery on wings. I have to cut out the flaps areas and replace them by provided in kit fragments: They did not went perfectly so some filler/sanding will be needed Here a comparison of shapes of wings fro P and K, both by RS I applied Humbrol body putty Then I started to paint all inside parts with RLM-02 (Humbrol 240) Of course, the details of inside in Airfix kit beat the RS by order of magnitude: To be continue (but still besides them I have four other small kits to finish....) Regards J-W 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 On behalf of all the participants I hereby want to express my/our gratitude to you J-W, because without your input there would be no Do 17 family GB in our hands right now The best of luck with your builds! V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Looks like it should be a fun build when I get around to starting my RS Do17F. I don't mind a short run kit really, shouldn't be too bad. That Airfix one looks so much better! Anyway, good start on your builds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Pete Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Blimey, those RS kits look a bit scary. Still I suppose that's what filler and sanding sticks were made for....... Anyway, looking forward this, I have a soft spot for the P variant - radials but still the slim nose. Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share Posted May 3, 2022 Many thanks! I made some progress today (In Poland we have today a holiday - the Constitution day...) I constructed nacelles in the "P" wing and started work on inside On "K" I did similar work but not that much advanced at the end... In my bulb light the RLM-02 looks very greenish, but it is regular Humbrol 240, so it is just the illusion... As you can see the wings are already sanded. to be cont. Regards J-W 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 I started also building of insides of Airfix Do 17 Z But the Valentia has a priority since the Big British GB ends much earlier... Regards J-W 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81-er Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Nice work there, JW James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carts Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Nice batch of Dorniers you have there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 Hi. Many thanks for support! I was continuing doing inside of cockpit The fifth chair was added and the top half of wings was glued: That is all for today, regards J-W 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 She's coming along very nicely indeed, great work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 The Airfix kit is a lot more "busy" than the ICM. Nice work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 Hi, For the last week I had a duty trip, so the progress is only from the week-end. I worked on wings of "P" together with the u/c gondolas and engines nacelles. Similar with the second RS kit - the "K" I also continued filling up the cockpits of both RS kits: However majority of work was on Airfix 'Z". Starting from the same (nacelles/gondolas): And some more details: I am considering some kitbashing. I've read once a review of Airfix Do 17 Z kit in which two problems were addressed: 1. To flat nose glazing 2. to narrow (to small chord) of propellers Since some 15 years ago I did the Do 215 B5 conversion from Monogram /Revell Do 17 a glass nose and props (as well as engines) left with me. I think I can use them here, Please have a look (on left Monogram/Revell. on right Airfix): or here: (bottom to bottom) : How do you think? Is it really a true that the flaws like that are present in Airfix kit? Regards J-W 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I can't say which one is more or less correct... but the ICM cone looks in my eyes more like the Airfix one, which doesn't help you at all . V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) I was going through photos of Do 17 Z in net and came to the "working conclusions" (so - it is my current opinion which can be changed if someone will give good arguments) 1. The front canopy is better shaped in Mionogram/Revell kit than in Airfix, where it seems to be too shallow. I based it for example on such photos: https://www.flying-tigers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/d1-On-March-7th-1945-a-Finnish-Do-17-was-forced-to-land-at-Kalixfors-.jpg https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HJ-ohAZ4L9g/VtyO8Y3b9KI/AAAAAAAAWAU/m-X0SveFSpU/s1600/1Do17cockpit.jpg 2. However, the propeller blades which are visible much narrow then those of Monogram/Revell kit are rather correct: https://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/germany/aircrafts/dornier_do17/Dornier_Do17_Z_of_5-KG_3.jpg https://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/germany/aircrafts/dornier_do17/Dornier_Do_17_Z_summer_1940.jpg So from my idea of kitbashing only the front canopy will be used from Revell/Monogram kit in the Airfix Do 17Z... Regards J-W Edited May 25, 2022 by JWM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 Hi I made a montage of engines in Airfix "Z". It requires only small adjustments . I started work on engines in RS "K" as well I decided to glue fuselage halves together and to add further inside elements already to glued fuselage To be continued Regards J-W 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 This is quite a tour-de-force! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 Hi, I focused on Do 17K today Yesterday I glued wings and fuselage together. I have to align fuselage and wings surfaced using a kind of bar clamp Then I have to use filler. Today I sanded all it Some work on engines: I drilled through the resin central part to make room for a propeller shaft. The propellers (two different pitch, typical for GR engines) The Do 17P had some progress as well, a day or two delayed compared to "K". I glued fuselage halves togetehr, before it drilled a circle window opening in fuselage (as was marked) To be continued Regards J-W 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 Hi, I did some progress with Valentia (Big British GB) today, so a progress with Dorniers is small... I glued fuselage and wings together in "P" That is all for now. As you can see I am re-using tape, just to save the planet (and my wallet too...) Regards J-W 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 A progress report for today. I made rotating props of "K" and installing engines as well as clear parts (painted with diluted gloss varnish - acrylic one by Tamiya) Similar with Z - I installed clear parts I quit the idea of kitbushing - there is not confirmation, that Airfix kit has any shape problems... And Monogram for sure at leas has too long wing chord. In case of P a small delay can be observed: Regards J-W 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81-er Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 They're looking good, JW James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 Hi, I was working on engines in "P" - I drilled out to install a shafts for propellers (secured in back side) Then I glued cowlings, installed carburetor air intakes and painted first yellow coat. Then I glued the props On K i did small progress filling up a bit the surrounding of front window from bottom side. I installed also a landing lamp With Z I also worked on props Basically, to end gluing the u/c left only. IN WW2 section I asked a question on scheme of P. I am not sure in the MG on front & bottom side - how exactly it was mounted, in which window? To be cont. Regards J-W 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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