JWM Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 Hi, This seems to be a good opportunity to reduce my stash by all three Do 17 s present there. They are: 1. Airfix Do 17 Z 2. RS Do 17 K (long nacelles) 3. RS Do 17 P The boxes: An their contents: The "Z" I want to do from BoB or France, nevertheless from 1940, western front. The K will be Yugoslavian, but I am not decided yet if the one from times of Kingdom of Y., Croatia or partizan/end of war... The P will be from Balkans 1941, They will complete what I have so far on shelves: 1. SCW Do 17 F 2. Luftwaffe Do 215 B5 3&4. Two Do 217s I a bit apologize, that I will do them mostly OOB and that I will not start very rapidly since I have now 5 kits on the workbench.... To be continued Regards J-W 10
JOCKNEY Posted April 29, 2022 Posted April 29, 2022 Wow Jerzy, you are really going for it in this GB Best of luck with these. Cheers Pat 1
JWM Posted May 2, 2022 Author Posted May 2, 2022 Thnaks for encouraging! I took frame out of boxes yesterday. First of all both RS kits has a lot of push out of mold unwanted additions and some more without explanation, generally parts require pre-treatment: The "long nacelles" Yugoslavian K requires surgery on wings. I have to cut out the flaps areas and replace them by provided in kit fragments: They did not went perfectly so some filler/sanding will be needed Here a comparison of shapes of wings fro P and K, both by RS I applied Humbrol body putty Then I started to paint all inside parts with RLM-02 (Humbrol 240) Of course, the details of inside in Airfix kit beat the RS by order of magnitude: To be continue (but still besides them I have four other small kits to finish....) Regards J-W 8
vppelt68 Posted May 2, 2022 Posted May 2, 2022 On behalf of all the participants I hereby want to express my/our gratitude to you J-W, because without your input there would be no Do 17 family GB in our hands right now 🙂 The best of luck with your builds! V-P 1
Adam Poultney Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 Looks like it should be a fun build when I get around to starting my RS Do17F. I don't mind a short run kit really, shouldn't be too bad. That Airfix one looks so much better! Anyway, good start on your builds 1
Potato Pete Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 Blimey, those RS kits look a bit scary. Still I suppose that's what filler and sanding sticks were made for....... Anyway, looking forward this, I have a soft spot for the P variant - radials but still the slim nose. Pete 1
JWM Posted May 3, 2022 Author Posted May 3, 2022 Many thanks! I made some progress today (In Poland we have today a holiday - the Constitution day...) I constructed nacelles in the "P" wing and started work on inside On "K" I did similar work but not that much advanced at the end... In my bulb light the RLM-02 looks very greenish, but it is regular Humbrol 240, so it is just the illusion... As you can see the wings are already sanded. to be cont. Regards J-W 7
JWM Posted May 12, 2022 Author Posted May 12, 2022 I started also building of insides of Airfix Do 17 Z But the Valentia has a priority since the Big British GB ends much earlier... Regards J-W 9
JWM Posted May 14, 2022 Author Posted May 14, 2022 Hi. Many thanks for support! I was continuing doing inside of cockpit The fifth chair was added and the top half of wings was glued: That is all for today, regards J-W 6
modelling minion Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 She's coming along very nicely indeed, great work. 🇺🇦 1
vppelt68 Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 The Airfix kit is a lot more "busy" than the ICM. Nice work! 1
JWM Posted May 22, 2022 Author Posted May 22, 2022 Hi, For the last week I had a duty trip, so the progress is only from the week-end. I worked on wings of "P" together with the u/c gondolas and engines nacelles. Similar with the second RS kit - the "K" I also continued filling up the cockpits of both RS kits: However majority of work was on Airfix 'Z". Starting from the same (nacelles/gondolas): And some more details: I am considering some kitbashing. I've read once a review of Airfix Do 17 Z kit in which two problems were addressed: 1. To flat nose glazing 2. to narrow (to small chord) of propellers Since some 15 years ago I did the Do 215 B5 conversion from Monogram /Revell Do 17 a glass nose and props (as well as engines) left with me. I think I can use them here, Please have a look (on left Monogram/Revell. on right Airfix): or here: (bottom to bottom) : How do you think? Is it really a true that the flaws like that are present in Airfix kit? Regards J-W 3 1
vppelt68 Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 I can't say which one is more or less correct... but the ICM cone looks in my eyes more like the Airfix one, which doesn't help you at all . V-P 1
JWM Posted May 25, 2022 Author Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) I was going through photos of Do 17 Z in net and came to the "working conclusions" (so - it is my current opinion which can be changed if someone will give good arguments) 1. The front canopy is better shaped in Mionogram/Revell kit than in Airfix, where it seems to be too shallow. I based it for example on such photos: https://www.flying-tigers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/d1-On-March-7th-1945-a-Finnish-Do-17-was-forced-to-land-at-Kalixfors-.jpg https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HJ-ohAZ4L9g/VtyO8Y3b9KI/AAAAAAAAWAU/m-X0SveFSpU/s1600/1Do17cockpit.jpg 2. However, the propeller blades which are visible much narrow then those of Monogram/Revell kit are rather correct: https://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/germany/aircrafts/dornier_do17/Dornier_Do17_Z_of_5-KG_3.jpg https://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/germany/aircrafts/dornier_do17/Dornier_Do_17_Z_summer_1940.jpg So from my idea of kitbashing only the front canopy will be used from Revell/Monogram kit in the Airfix Do 17Z... Regards J-W Edited May 25, 2022 by JWM 2
JWM Posted May 25, 2022 Author Posted May 25, 2022 Hi I made a montage of engines in Airfix "Z". It requires only small adjustments . I started work on engines in RS "K" as well I decided to glue fuselage halves together and to add further inside elements already to glued fuselage To be continued Regards J-W 5
JWM Posted May 27, 2022 Author Posted May 27, 2022 Hi, I focused on Do 17K today Yesterday I glued wings and fuselage together. I have to align fuselage and wings surfaced using a kind of bar clamp Then I have to use filler. Today I sanded all it Some work on engines: I drilled through the resin central part to make room for a propeller shaft. The propellers (two different pitch, typical for GR engines) The Do 17P had some progress as well, a day or two delayed compared to "K". I glued fuselage halves togetehr, before it drilled a circle window opening in fuselage (as was marked) To be continued Regards J-W 6
JWM Posted May 28, 2022 Author Posted May 28, 2022 Hi, I did some progress with Valentia (Big British GB) today, so a progress with Dorniers is small... I glued fuselage and wings together in "P" That is all for now. As you can see I am re-using tape, just to save the planet (and my wallet too...) Regards J-W 8
JWM Posted June 5, 2022 Author Posted June 5, 2022 A progress report for today. I made rotating props of "K" and installing engines as well as clear parts (painted with diluted gloss varnish - acrylic one by Tamiya) Similar with Z - I installed clear parts I quit the idea of kitbushing - there is not confirmation, that Airfix kit has any shape problems... And Monogram for sure at leas has too long wing chord. In case of P a small delay can be observed: Regards J-W 6
JWM Posted June 7, 2022 Author Posted June 7, 2022 Hi, I was working on engines in "P" - I drilled out to install a shafts for propellers (secured in back side) Then I glued cowlings, installed carburetor air intakes and painted first yellow coat. Then I glued the props On K i did small progress filling up a bit the surrounding of front window from bottom side. I installed also a landing lamp With Z I also worked on props Basically, to end gluing the u/c left only. IN WW2 section I asked a question on scheme of P. I am not sure in the MG on front & bottom side - how exactly it was mounted, in which window? To be cont. Regards J-W 5
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