georgeusa Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 This arrived today right before lunch; the 1/32 Zoukei-Mura Horten Ho 229. Now my plan for lunch today was to tackle the nose parts of the Airfix Typhoon to see if I could get them to line up. Needless to say, I got distracted and just drooled over this kit. Here is a peek into what’s in the box. This cover goes over a plain cardboard box containing all the good stuff. It was packed quite well and not one single piece was off of its respective sprue. And, this is what they look like: I was very surprised at the contents. I knew the option to do the kit as a clear version was included, but I thought it would be like the 1/24 Trumpeter Bf 109 kit with alternative clear parts. Not quite, this is designed to be built as a clear version and then afterwards, if you want, you can paint it. The exterior parts are all clear; well sorta. Many of the exterior parts are canopy clear. The main parts, the fuselage and wings are this cloudy clear version. I am not sure of the reasoning why these parts are semi-clear as opposed to completely clear like the canopy parts. Very odd. The detail looks good and the framework that needs to be built up looks complicated and challenging. The decals are nice, but not exceptional. There is also one correction piece in the box for part F-3. It was quite prominently displayed so it would be hard to miss and use the incorrect piece on the F sprue. That is a nice touch. The manual is what can be expected from Zoukei-Mura as it is quite detailed and has examples of the built up parts. colour callouts are only for Vallejo paints. It looks like 45 pages of modeling fun. I am desperately trying to resist immediately starting on this kit. I have too many others that need to be finished. Hopefully, I can finish one or two prior to this weekend. If I do, this kit is jumping ahead on my to do list. So a WIP will be posted soon. If anyone has more questions or would like more detailed photos, please let me know. Now just how much Future do I have on stock? Probably need more! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim T Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 George. You lucky, lucky friend of Nigel! That looks beautiful. Are you going to paint it or do it as a clear skin? I am jealous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Who claimed they cannot make big clear parts when I suggested that would be the solution for fabric covered wings to replicate the shine through effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeusa Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Tim, I don't know if I will leave it clear or not. I will build it with that in mind. So the first step is to coat all the clear parts in Future. Then I have to be extremely careful with the glue and joins as there can be no sanding involved or else the clear finish will be ruined. The likelihood of me not having a fingerprint or two here and there is slim to none. I guess I will see just how well this kit is designed because for the life of me, I don't know how to fill gaps with clear filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 colour callouts Colour spelt correctly, I am most impressed. Not even hendie can manage this despite my remonstrations. Lots of clear parts that I would paint opaque to be frank. The very best of British luck with it. I am looking forward to what you do with this, is it a most amazing kit. Cheers, Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofrog Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I don't understand this model George ? Was this a special plane ? It looks very detail . Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeusa Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Rick, It was an experimental plane developed that was in the developmental stage at the end of the war. It was a tailess plane with stealth capabilities built into it. Zoukei-Mura kits are known for their detail in that they create kits that try to show how an aircraft was built. A lot of their detail is hidden once the kit is built up. This is the first kit they have done that allows you to build it with a clear skin that will show all of the interior frame workings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofrog Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Thank you George . Is it looks like a nice model .. Highly detail .. I can't wait to see you start it Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar2 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 You lucky blighty George Certainly looks great and I hope to pick one up at Telford. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeusa Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Dave, I would suggest you get there early as I expect these to go out the door very fast. On first appearances it looks daunting when you look over the build sequences for the frame work. It's hard to resist starting it right now. But, I must be good and finish a couple of kits first. Have fun at Telford. Wish I could go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar2 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Oh don't worry, it'll be my first stop on getting into the show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Build it quickly my man with the speed of a Legion of finest Roman chariots (and avoiding any drive through). Put the Typhoon on the back burner. This 229 has to take priority. And play Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries loudly at the same time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Here is another review: http://www.plastik-modellbau.org/blog/46993/2014/#more-46993 Have fun and enjoy the pic's modelldoc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeusa Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Must brush up on my German. Where is Google translate when you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wheels Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 They've started conservation work on th ereal thing at the Smithsonian. Some of the photos may be of use or interest. http://blog.nasm.si.edu/restoration/horten-h-ix-v3-bat-wing-ship-may-2014-update/ http://blog.nasm.si.edu/uncategorized/horten-h-ix-v3-bat-wing-ship-november-2013-update/ http://blog.nasm.si.edu/restoration/preserving-and-displaying-the-bat-wing-ship-march-update/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_m Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Seems a little strange to include every fan in the engines, but then make the engine walls opaque, when such a large amount of plastic is provided as clear. I think the rough translucent appearance of some parts might be to increase paint adherence, but I guess it might also be a cost saving, if there is a cost involved in polishing the moulds to a higher standard to achieve the high clarity areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeusa Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 They've started conservation work on th ereal thing at the Smithsonian. Some of the photos may be of use or interest. http://blog.nasm.si.edu/restoration/horten-h-ix-v3-bat-wing-ship-may-2014-update/ http://blog.nasm.si.edu/uncategorized/horten-h-ix-v3-bat-wing-ship-november-2013-update/ http://blog.nasm.si.edu/restoration/preserving-and-displaying-the-bat-wing-ship-march-update/ Thanks for these links, I appreciate it. Seems a little strange to include every fan in the engines, but then make the engine walls opaque, when such a large amount of plastic is provided as clear. I think the rough translucent appearance of some parts might be to increase paint adherence, but I guess it might also be a cost saving, if there is a cost involved in polishing the moulds to a higher standard to achieve the high clarity areas. Ben, I have no clue why some areas are not so clear. Maybe it is a cost savings thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Got my shipping note from Volks yesterday. Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike romeo Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 How does the wash out look on the kit? I am led to believe that the wings should have a significant twist nose down along the wings from root to tip. regards, Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) I think I would be tempted to paint it as a freeform "cutaway" model. That would allow you to use glue/filler etc. as normal and all those areas would be painted. For example, you could do the entire port side in whatever scheme you chose, then on the starboard side, apply the same scheme around any joints, but leave say, parts of the upper and lower wing, parts of the fuselage etc. transparent Like a mixture of this.... http://www.westway-aircraft-models.com/resources/IMG_0715.jpg and this..... http://media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com/736x/4a/32/3b/4a323b7f08c857f7c5e1a8c155a74af2.jpg but with the skin on masking would be easy - overlay a few strips of masking tape on your cutting board, cut a freeform shape, remove the unwanted outer edges, and lay your freeform masking anywhere on the aircraft that takes your fancy. Could be a very cool project! Edited October 30, 2014 by hendie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeusa Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 How does the wash out look on the kit? I am led to believe that the wings should have a significant twist nose down along the wings from root to tip. regards, Martin I do not know yet. I will check it out tonight and let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCZ Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 This isn't HORTON by Goddess ! Jimmy Horton was american country singer (To Alaska, Sink the Bismarck !). This is HORTEN !!!! Work of german engineers and aircraft visionary brothers Horten's ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeusa Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Maybe I heard a who when I started this site. I have made the necessary corrections. Now where's me dunce cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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