MIkeMaben Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Did the ID light on the spine go away sometime during the MkIX production ? Some are there but painted over. Earlier Mks are the same, started out clear then eventually painted over. Were spine ID lights discontinued for a specific reason ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Can someone tell me please if all FR 18s were built with the underside camera ports? I can only find photos of restored Fr 18s showing the undersides and they don't appear the have them. Planning to convert a PCM Mk XIV to a "desert camouflage ' FR 18 as used in the Middle East, in the not too distant future. John Edited September 22, 2017 by Biggles87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 HI John not sure about the camera ports, but the wing panelling is different see the pics are on Photobcket, but I just added a extension to Chrome and they show up fine. (but I will repost on Flickr when I get chance) The drawing at the top does show camera ports though. @Mark12 aka Peter Arnold would most likely know, and hopefully this will alert him. HTH T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Thanks Troy, that's useful. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Yes, all FR 18s would have had the ports (until someone demonstrates otherwise), but there were also some F 18s built. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatters Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Hi all Can someone please clarify the differences between Spitfire II, IIa and Va please. I have all the 1/72 airfix boxing of the spits, but after reading the comments regarding the Va boxing in the rumourmonger section on here I am confused as to which oil coolers are fitted to Spitfire II and IIa, whether the Va had the supplied canopy and fabric covered flaps ? I plan on building all the kit supplied marking options using extra starter kits from Aldi if I can get some tomorrow. Many thanks Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The starter sets don't have the parts for the II/V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatters Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, PhantomBigStu said: The starter sets don't have the parts for the II/V I realise that, I'm hoping to have enough leftovers from the I/IIa Va/II kits to add to the basic kits supplied in the starter sets. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, shatters said: I realise that, I'm hoping to have enough leftovers from the I/IIa Va/II kits to add to the basic kits supplied in the starter sets. Phil Fair. Enough but unless your building the mkii/v kits as mk1s you won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatters Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, PhantomBigStu said: Fair. Enough but unless your building the mkii/v kits as mk1s you won't If I build an early mk1 with early canopy and 2 blades prop I will have a full set of IIa spares to use on one of the starter kits. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The semi-flush oil cooler was standard for the Mk.I and Mk.II. The round intake oil cooler was standard for the Mk.V. Some late Mk.IIs had the Mk.V cooler, but I don't think I've ever seen a listing of which.. Mk.II and Mk.IIA is saying the same thing - the suffix system was only adopted after the Mk.II entered service and the cannon wing became a standard fit. Mk.IIs were built with fabric covered ailerons - not flaps - and so were early Mk.Vs. There is no easy way of telling which had the metal ailerons first fitted in production, and in-service aircraft were re-fitted with the metal ones as they became available. I suspect this will have been covered in more detail elsewhere in this thread. As for spares: that rather depends upon just what you are making. As above, you can do a Mk.II and still have the spare oil cooler. Mk.Vs do not have the bulge for the Coffman starter, only Mk.IIs. The DH prop was seen on Mk.I, II and V, although the Rotol was distinctive to the Mk.II (and many Hurricanes) and it may have even been seen on a few (very few?) Mk.Is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Idly surfing interwebby to research a whif I came across this French Spitfire Vc http://spitfiresite.com/2009/02/with-the-mediterranean-allied-coastal-air-force.html Any thoughts? My only reaction is that it has USAAF style wing markings and has a late war Mk.V ‘bitsa’ field mods. Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatters Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Another airfix spitfire question. In the starter kit spitfire the lower colour scheme calls for sky under surfaces with one black wing. Is this accurate or a way for airfix to get away with using the 4 supplied pots of paint ? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Nope, that's correct for Nov (or Dec) '40 to April '41, at least for some. bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatters Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, gingerbob said: Nope, that's correct for Nov (or Dec) '40 to April '41, at least for some. bob Thanks bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 hours ago, shatters said: Another airfix spitfire question. In the starter kit spitfire the lower colour scheme calls for sky under surfaces with one black wing. Is this accurate as bob says.... this is, as captioned at the bottom "the basic combination of colours" for NW Europe up to 1945. The devil is in the details though... from http://www.boxartden.com/gallery/index.php/Profiles/Camoflage-Markings/01-Supermarine-Spitfire well worth a read and saving, while old I don't know of a better primer on the subject. Note the site linked has lots of very useful references scanned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatters Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Sorry folks, another stupid spitfire question, I've got 3 airfix spitfire kits in front of me, all 3 call for a different colour inside the wheel wells, 56,90 or 106. Can anyone confirm which if any is correct ? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonhoff Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Presumably they are Spitfires in different time periods? In which case I believe they are painted whatever the underside colour of the time was... That's how I do mine anyway. (Lights blue touch paper and stands back ) Edited November 27, 2017 by Bonhoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, shatters said: Sorry folks, another stupid spitfire question, I've got 3 airfix spitfire kits in front of me, all 3 call for a different colour inside the wheel wells, 56,90 or 106. Can anyone confirm which if any is correct ? Phil much debated. I know I have put together posts on this, eg http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234974004-question-for-wwii-aircraft-manufacturing-experts/&do=findComment&comment=1851442 and in every photo I could find where you could see part of the wheel well, it was the underside colour, as seen the link. that's only the circular wheel bit, the part where the leg goes is most likely aluminium paint until 43 or 44, and then grey- green. read the entire linked thread for more on this. the exception is the very late Griffon Spitfire, Mk21, 22, 24, which have outer doors, and they have grey-green wells. HTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Apologies if this has been asked before but can you make a Spitfire IXb from the Eduard 1/48 boxing. I see only IXc & IXe as kitted options. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 The "IXB" is an unofficial designation for the LF.IX, as opposed to the F.IX. So yes, an Eduard "IXc" would make an LF.IX. In most cases you probably want "IXc late" rather than early. bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I think that all the kit versions are LF Mk.IXs. None of them give the specific features of the F Mk.IX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatters Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Troy Smith said: every photo I could find where you could see part of the wheel well, it was the underside colour, as seen the link. that's only the circular wheel bit, the part where the leg goes is most likely aluminium paint until 43 or 44, and then grey- green. read the entire linked thread for more on this. So one black and one white for an early war spit ? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Yep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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