Skids Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) If I get my Tucano done this week I may jump in on this with an Academy P-40C, if thats ok with everyone, and just do it straight OOB (with maybe a bit of scratch build) Simon Edited December 29, 2014 by Skids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Hi folks, Wondering if anyone can confirm my research into the colour scheme of the AVG (Flying Tigers) P-40s operating in Burma in 1942? My research tells me they where Dark Green and Dark Earth camouflage with Neutrall Grey undersides. I ask because I have found a reference that claims the P-40s were painted Dark Green and Light earth with light blue/grey undersides. However I think they may have changed to this scheme when the group relocated to China. Anyone have any reference they can help with? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I would suggest contacting Mr. Nick Millman, Ma'am: this gets gone into a lot, and he is the best informed person I know of. Short answer is that the machines were finished in colors made in the U.S. equivalent to Dark Earth, Dark Green, and Sky. Neutral Grey as used in the USAAC was not employed. That said, there is a great deal of controversy over just what shade the U.S. equivalent color to Sky (made by DuPont) actually was, with opinions running from very close to exact match down to a grey-blue. Then the question of weathering comes in. Facilities in Burma were primitive and conditions extreme. Weathering would be heavy, and doubtless changed the color of the paints noticeably. One likely direction for this would be making the 'Dark Earth' paler, and making the 'Sky' more grey. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Hi Mish. I did the Airfix AVG Hawk, and just used the Humbrol paints called out on the back of the box. Slightly different to the RAF green/earth. I was happy enough with it, but these aircraft were very worn and the paint faded quite a bit. They were patched up, and odd panels here and there were replaced and repainted giving the aircraft a well used appearance. Fellow Britmodeller ArmouredSprue did a very comprehensive WIP on his AVG Hawk and posted some good reference photos and even paint chips. Worth checking out in the WIP section. With hind sight I would probably lighten the colours with a little white, and then add some darker paint to represent the touched up areas. AVG Hawks can be a bit of a can of worms, but like all things it's really up to the individual how far they want to go with it. Good luck with your build. Edited December 30, 2014 by chockhead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Thanks guys, after a bit more searching I have found a WWII colour photo of the aircraft I want to build so I build to it I should be safe. Can't believe just how faded, chipped and worn those aircraft were. Not sure I can pull it off in 1:72 LINKY and LINKY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Have a Hasegawa Kittyhawk Mk I and a Hasegawa P-40N both in 1/72 in my stash.. But I'm a bit undecided to which I should enter this STGB with. Like the RAF sandbox camo a lot, But the canopy on the N is so cool to, so its hard to chose. I recon that I only have time to build one, since its about last time to join the BF 110 STGB which is also dragging, plus the Lesserbuild GB and the Sea King STGB in which I'm the host. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) Hi folks, Wondering if anyone can confirm my research into the colour scheme of the AVG (Flying Tigers) P-40s operating in Burma in 1942? My research tells me they where Dark Green and Dark Earth camouflage with Neutrall Grey undersides. I ask because I have found a reference that claims the P-40s were painted Dark Green and Light earth with light blue/grey undersides. However I think they may have changed to this scheme when the group relocated to China. Anyone have any reference they can help with? Thanks. Hi Mish The AVG P 40's you are referring to in 1942, are you in the period from Januarary-March 1942 with the fall of Singapore/Malyasia? Or are you referring to the AVG post that period where the AVG would have been issued P40E's, which to my understanding were more likely to be the colours (Neutral grey) in your question? If you are with the Januarary-March 1942, the lower colour was supposed to be more akin to this colour in US manufactured paints. http://s40.photobucket.com/user/hkins/media/MOTAT/FILE0263copy_zps5a2334d5.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3 Hope that helps? Regards Alan Edited December 31, 2014 by LDSModeller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 As I mentioned earlier all sorted thanks guys. I have genuine reference photos of the aircraft I wish to build, that's good enough for me as they can't be disputed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) Hi folks, Wondering if anyone can confirm my research into the colour scheme of the AVG (Flying Tigers) P-40s operating in Burma in 1942? My research tells me they where Dark Green and Dark Earth camouflage with Neutrall Grey undersides. I ask because I have found a reference that claims the P-40s were painted Dark Green and Light earth with light blue/grey undersides. However I think they may have changed to this scheme when the group relocated to China. Anyone have any reference they can help with? Thanks. Hi Mish as far as l know they where from RAF stock so could be Dark green ,dark earth and maybe sky or as they came from the states a close FS match Cheers Les Edited December 31, 2014 by wellzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Thanks Les all sorted now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Ok just a quick one on this does anyone know where I can get 72 scale sharkmouth decals. As I'm building the xp40q but it's the pegasus kit and the decals are known to be a little bit erm........ Pants I've got loads of spare stars and bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 You can have the spares from my Airfix kit as I'm planning on using after market. Drop me a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Few hours to go people was hoping a new nozzle had arrived for my airbrush today as I have to put a flat coat on my spitfire to finish it but I will be starting mine tomorrow wooo hoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungo1974 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Now all the Christmas/New Years silliness is done n' dusted I'd better hit the online site's for a P-40 kit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Really? You're the host!!!!!! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungo1974 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I know.....Had originally planned to build a Hasegawa 1/32 P-40N Limited Edition kit i had in my stash.. But a model buddy wanted it so bad he bought it off me for £250,and i've never gotten around to replacing it....now BOOM the GB is here. I sure i can pick up a 1/48 Hase kit or even a Italeri(Ex-AMT) kit.....the latter are alittle rough around the edges but still look like a P-40 when finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Bargain Airfix 1:72 Tomahawk II starter kits at Hannants If your looking for a bargain Big H are offering the above starter kits at 1/2 price Linky I've just got four for less than £20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 did Airfix have trouble shifting this kit everyone seems to have them at knock off prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungo1974 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Right, One Italeri 1/48 P-40M/N Kittyhawk purchased via Kingkit Time to start researching paint schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeyboy76 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 A little help please. Excuse my non technical terms (after all I am a Driver not a techie) On the P-40 rear of the radiator on the underside how many flaps are there? I mean the ones to the rear of the engine & not the wing ones. My Egg plane is a little bare & this is something I can add. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thueser Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Four flaps. You can use the nice walk arounds in the Reference Thread of this GB to check it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo11 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 did Airfix have trouble shifting this kit everyone seems to have them at knock off prices?Maybe it's the old tool Hawk and not the new one, if it's the newer one then I don't know why they aren't going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skids Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Was going to do a Flying Tiger but wondered is there much visual difference between a C and a B version. Would really like to do the Olive drab B version but not sure if I would get away with it? Thanks Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungo1974 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 In model terms they are pretty much identical. In real life the main difference on the P-40C was the extra armor plate,better fuel system,new fuel tanks(self sealing) and a slightly higher rated engine to offset the heavier weight of the P-40C with the extras fitted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skids Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Thanks mungo If I can find some decals I might change my build to a Pearl Harbour beastie Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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