Dr_Fester Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) Thanks guys Well progress is being made with the Gooney Bird. Having had MANY attempts using raised rivet detail embossed on the reverse of the foil I have had to throw in the towel. Although more accurate in theory my attempts at adding the raised rivets just looked too exaggerated and toy like. So I have taken the lead from Pierre and used his example of adding recessed rivet detail, not strictly accurate but in this scale I think looks much neater. Searching for reference photos of rivet detail it seems many airframes have different rivet layouts and I can only go from the few reference photos I have for the bird I am building. This includes adding 4 extra windows, 2 near the tail and 2 up front. Glazing taken from an old CD case. As this kit is based on a WWII C-47 Skytrain it still had the opening for the top radome above the cockpit and unfortunately the aircraft I am modelling is without the dome. So this had to be filled and sanded down flush and will be finished with an additional foil plate later. I have still to add the cockpit glass but thought I would make a start on the foiling. More soon Doc Edited December 28, 2009 by Dr_Fester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Crazy person... I don't know whether I'll ever have the nerve to do a BMF finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skii Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Looks bloody brilliant Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Fester Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 Managed to get some more modelling time in today and got over my first potential stumbling block, foiling the cockpit area. It seems not much has changed but I wasn't happy with some of the panels so they have been replaced. The cockpit glass has been installed along with 2 blanking panels on top of the cockpit area. Still some of this foiling requires rivet detail adding (...ahem only having seen the photos closeup ), but the curves of the cockpit caused less headaches for this flexible foil which was a bonus. Before closing the cockpit I added an additional instrument dial as per my refs, not sure what it is compass maybe? Anyhow I will continue foiling the rest of the fus and hopefully post some pics as I go. Cheers Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Incredible. It be ashame to paint it, would look great as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Fester Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 Incredible. It be ashame to paint it, would look great as it is. Thanks Woody, Yes that's why I picked a paint scheme with a mostly metal finish. Although saying that most of the underside is white. Cheers Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasatka Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hi, Doc! Foiling looks very good! For further effect you can turn the pieces of foil 90 degrees for the different shades. Cheers Sergey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Fester Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) Sergey, glad you like it so far. I have added more foiling to the port side today; The foil does have a brushed grain effect as Sergey has pointed out, so far I have only used the vertical grain on the cockpit door. The door's handle has been removed as I will be scratch building one later. First problem encountered today as I opened a new roll of foil and found it to be more shiny than the previous roll and adhesive much more sticky. This causes lines on the foil as it's removed from the backing which has to be removed by burnishing with cotton buds. More soon... Doc Edited December 30, 2009 by Dr_Fester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 That's looking very very good! I'm really impressed with the conforming of that thicker foil without deforming any of the corners. great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMac Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Your doing a grand job there my friend. Not easy though is it. Makes me wanna do some more on my Acadamy Sabre that I've been foiling over the last six months F86 :- http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=40094 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Fester Posted January 2, 2010 Author Share Posted January 2, 2010 Thanks guys, Rob the Sabre looks real nice and foiling work very neat. As we are blessed with some sunshine today I thought a few pics outside might show off the shine a little more. I'm making slow progress foiling toward the rear of the fuselage, leaving panels joining wings etc to be completed when it all comes together. A few dodgy rivet lines but I can live with that, trying to following the reference pics I have as close as possible. Also using some conformable white vinyl from work for the nose, this stuff is used for applying to vehicles and is very flexible almost like a thick cling film. Just cut a piece slightly larger than you need and stretch over the nose then trim the excess. The Gooney I'm building has had a few different paint schemes some with a white nose and some without, but I will go for the white version as stretching foil over the nose would be a recipe for disaster. Someone pointed out that the foiling looks too shiny but as you can see the full size one certainly isn't matt or dull so I'm happy with the finish. More soon...... Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Your foiling looks excellent. I'm sure some weathering will add to the reality and tone down "dirty" areas nicely, also the foil will probably oxidise in time anyway. Keep on going, this is cool mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOooKIE Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Very impressive work! Love your foiling work! :goodwork: / Jocke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Someone pointed out that the foiling looks too shiny but as you can see the full size one certainly isn't matt or dull so I'm happy with the finish. Too shiny...? Not quite. Me thinks it looks awesome, Doc; just like the real bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Fester Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 Thanks all, your very kind Making slow progress with the foiling but hope to post some more photos soon. Cheers Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Fester Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) A little update on the GooneyBird; Eventually got the the whole fuselage foiled, less the joints to be foiled when assembled. To say its a tedious job would be the mother of all understatements, damn Alclad seems like such an easy option now! Anyhow a few pics; Rudder hinges have been added and rudder itself requires a re-enforcing plate adding before the whole thing gets sprayed white. The 2 added windows towards the tail for some reason I have mis-aligned due to me going from another reference photo and guessing. The 2 windows should be aligned but I am leaving it for now. Scratchbuilt the fairing for the tail strobe by splitting a cotton bud stem and after shaping adding to each side of the tail. The finish is very easily marked with nails etc so a jig is a must when marking and riveting the foil. Next up will be the tailplane which need the elevators split and hinges added. Cheers Doc Edited January 10, 2010 by Dr_Fester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasatka Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 The work you've done on the foiling is well worth it! Alclad would not be any near to this finish! Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Stunning. Really admire your perseverance on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Fester Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 Sergey, Paul, thanks for your support. This project is turning into one of the time-sponge types, seem to have been building for ages and not even finished the fuselage yet! Cheers Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggi Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Superb work, that's going to look stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Looking fantastic, you've got more patience than me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Wow, It will all become worthwhile as it progresses, this is o so gorgeous ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Fester Posted January 14, 2010 Author Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) Thx guys. A little more progress with the tail now and having cut the elevators off I have added the tailplane to the C-47. The rudder & elevators will be added later when I am ready to spray the underside of the aircraft white along with control surfaces. Top and bottom of the tail have been foiled and now complete. Foiling as actually overlapped and riveted unlike the rest of the fuselage which is butt jointed. Next to tackle will be the MLG and installing the rest of the wiring. More soon..... Doc Edited January 14, 2010 by Dr_Fester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggi Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 What foil are you using Doc? You mentioned it coming from a roll. I'm aware of the stuff that comes in sheets, but at £5 per sheet, and such a small sheet at that, I discounted any possibility of using it myself. I investigated other stuff but it was not intended for modelling and the thickness appeared too great (I think it was plumbing stuff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Your patience on this project is zen like! Watching this with interest. Incidentally how are you going to tackle painting over foil? Will it adhere readily or will you need to key it first? MH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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