rob Lyttle Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I've got a small pile of kits accumulated for a project I want to do, so I'll join in the fun here. AND........ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Hi again, Your question didn't get fully answered on the Chat thread- have a quick look at the rules ("There is NOOOOO Rule 6!") and note the end date for this GB (August something). Welcome to the party! Bruce (aka bob) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 @gingerbob Err... What’s rule 6? (I'm a bit stuck as there isn't one, like you say... 🤔) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Hello Rob good to see you down in this area. A pair of twins hmmm, you’ll be a busy man wont you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) The answer lies within (sounds mysterious!): http://woolamaloo.com/bruce/ Edited April 9, 2019 by gingerbob 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 The rule 6 sketch is a bit obscure for our younger members, ie anyone under 60. Colin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beazer Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Rule 6? you plan on doing all 4 or combining a few into one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 17 hours ago, Colin W said: rule 6 sketch is a bit obscure for our younger members, I'LL TAKE THAT!! unfortunately, it covers youngsters under 60 AND those who just forget stuff.... Haven't really got a plan @Beazer. I'm just making a start on a project that I've been thinking about for a while, and then this comes up. Made a bit of a start on the little Airfix one and it's probably up around the 25% built threshold, but there's a long way to go. I'll just carry on and see where I am at the finish line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 The old Airfix kit is first up. There's something alluring about an old one with all the quirky features. Whether it's a Frog or Matchbox or an ancient Hasegawa kit, you got to pile in there and try to sort it. The Airfix Hudson is very much in this category. I started on the fuselage halves, filling in the gaps for the turret, astrodome and stand cutout. I also cut the rear door out of the fuselage, with a rounded top, and filled the nose windows with the transparencies. I made an interior floor, and robbed 3 seats from the MPM kit for the seats opposite and by the door.. The side windows were heavily dimpled outside and I sanded the heck out of them till they were flat, polished them and fitted. They're a bit recessed now but at least they are flat. Gun ports and nose glazing to be filled. You can see my efforts at sorting out the Tailplanes. Airfix supply 2 separate elevators and messed with the shapes to allow for moving parts. The Hudson has 2 elevators but the L14 has a one piece right across the tail, and a straight hinge line. This is a comparison with the MPM moulding... Note the slight V on the t. e Did I mention the rivets?!? This kit is from the heyday of the Airfix riveting mania. It is a FESTIVAL of rivets! Much rivet removal has taken place. So there we are with the wee L14. All good fun so far! 😎 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) Funny enough, the Hudson in the BM walkaround section is an ex Adastra airframe dressed up to look the part, and one of the inaccurate features is the one-piece elevator that I'm trying to make. See the way the piece underneath slides into the tail end. Just like the Beech 18. Edited April 13, 2019 by rob Lyttle Pic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I thought all Hudsons had the "straight across" elevator. Just that model kits, for some reason, don't. I just got a "NEW" (says the box) Airfix Short Skyvan (new in 1974-ish), and same problem with the windows. I'm hoping Krystal Klear or the like will do the job. Silly question time: What's your technique for "de-riveting"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Good morning Rob Very good start on the old Airfix kit that I had built a loong time ago ?? Patrice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 3 hours ago, gingerbob said: I thought all Hudsons had the "straight across" elevator. Just that model kits, for some reason, don't I'm on a steep learning curve here so don't count on any thing being for sure. I've got this to reference... 119 is detailed as fixed centre section there. I took it that it was deemed an advantage in a military context, if you took a hit on the tail end, the other half might get you home. As for the rivets, just a selection of flexible emery boards and the like. They whizz off quite easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 more shreds of "evidence" on the elevator subject... Remarkable how evasive it is to research! Photo of a Hudson from under... Hardly cast iron conclusive but it does look to be an end of the elevator. And a description from annotated illustration of a Hudson. Under the heading Tailplane... Any info for or against this notion of mine is very welcome! Here's the modified tail and the MPM moulding for comparison with the Airfix If my theory is right then MPM are correct for the L14 (and the "Hudson" in the BM walkaround) but wrong for the real Hudson airframes. Any way, I chucked the kit parts and carved a new elevator. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Elevator and the fins are fitted. The rudders are basically in 3 parts each with the middle section being part of the Tailplane moulding, so they're never going to be perfect. Pleased to see that MPM have a better method of representing them. The underside, representing the sliding section at the tail end. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) I've made a start on the wings. The rivets are still quite visible here but that's really a function of the silver plastic... they have been pretty thoroughly flattened. Also, the nacelles are assembled with the u/c leg. One remains retractable to keep out of the way, the other I'm afraid caught some glue and remains stubbornly in the lowered position. The big Fowler flaps on these planes are quite a feature and Airfix barely indicates their existence, so I engraved mine. The anti-stall slots are not so evident on the L14s so I'm omitting those as best I can. One thing I need to take a picture of is an adjustment to the nacelles with a sliver of 1mm plastic on the inboard side to alter the leg angle. After some dry fitting I came to the conclusion that the legs needed angling out a fraction to keep them vertical when the wings are assembled. Won't know for sure if I've done the right thing until the final assembly, but that's how it looked to me. Picture to follow.... Edited April 20, 2019 by rob Lyttle Pic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Nice to see civilian subjects in the GB, although you'll obviously have your work cut out with these! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 WWAAAY too much shootin' and bombin' going on, @CliffB! And boring old drabs, greys and camo schemes. I just wandered into the fantastic world of South American Skytrucks and Propliners while doing my Curtiss C46 build. WOW....!! I think I'm a convert 😍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 18 hours ago, rob Lyttle said: I just wandered into the fantastic world of South American Skytrucks and Propliners while doing my Curtiss C46 build. WOW....!! I think I'm a convert 😍 Agreed! I've done a few LAB propliners too (as part of my Chaco War collection) - mainly Junkers, plus a Sikorsky S.38 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 The wing top is foiled and the rivets are gone. The ailerons were pretty low-grade and very gappy, being designed to be moving parts. They're now remastered to fit the spaces in the wings. Now.... The engine cowlings.... ⚠️🚫⚠️😮 This is "having a go" at an old time kit and seeing what can be done. It's not a situation that requires or deserves a ransom-worth of AM add-on stuff. So, "What you see is What you get ", and vice versa. I'll see what I can do with them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 Remember I said about "having a go at an old time kit" and seeing what can be done with it? Well, Lockheed - wise I thought I'd stick some of these bits together.... And maybe smooth off some of the rivets. It's Revells ancient "box-scale" Connie, apparently about 1.125 scale or thereabouts. They were scaled to fit a particular size of box. Notoriously unsophisticated kits. I've done the DC7C previously, with all the mods necessary. Don't worry, this is just a bit of fun on the side. 😎 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 The Connie/Super-Connie are my favorite classic airliners. Will that get a WIP up in aviation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Will that get a WIP up in aviation? I don't think it will warrant that level of coverage, Dennis. The odd update on this Lockheed forum as and when it progresses, along with everything else. It's just while I'm in the mood for removing RIVETS!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 15 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Will that get a WIP up in aviation With rivets like that shouldn't it be in Maritime? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 It looks like a Connie made from 3" boiler plate! Never mind 8,000', that looks able to take 8 Bar steam pressure! Colin 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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