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Hi all I have been wanting to do a vehicle for ages so what better start than a replica of my mate's 57 Bus. Being called 57 there are differences to the later splits. Rear lights, rear tailgate. This one also has Airstream caravan windows, which might be functo make. I believe this might be sunnier and it is similar in layout to a Westphalia bus. I have had the wheels 3D printed for scale correctness. I am using the newer Revell kits forv this, the Westphalia SO42 turret top release for the interior and side windows and the Panel van kit for the roof. I plan on doing this for his 50th Birthday as a gift as he has helped me out with the Porsche and the Fastback and I want to give something back I started by removing the Belly pans as his bus doesn't have them , this meant I needed to corrugated floor so I cut the floor from the front and rear sections and then was able to turn it over. It was all a bit weak at this point so I had to be careful cutting the engine bay section out. Don't worry about the chassis rails as I will make new ones later. There is an oil cooler set up along one of the belly pans on the near side which I need to replicate Cab floor glued along with now upside down floor added , this is now a very strong assembly . Revell provide rounded tubs inside the front arches and these are not presentbon the real thing so they had to go. One down got the other to do . I have removed all of the mounting for the kit rear suspension and drive train ready for a Tamiya Beetle engine and lots of 3D ptinted engine parts plus some scratched bits . The 3D engine bits are lovely and I was helped out greatly getting hold of them by Bruan @rockpopandchips, who was brilliant in getting the online files printed and sent to me. So Brian thank you so much , I really appreciate you help. Thank you for looking in and j hope you don't mind an Aircraft modeller invading the vehicle section. Best wishes Chris
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Hello friends, new build Belgian Army Revell Unimog 2T milgl with lot of addons Def.Model wheels MAD-Modellbau cabin Perfect Scale U1300 Ladefläche Personentransport Blast Model machine gun
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Hi, Please find the Revell 1/32 Westland Lynx in Dutch service. The kit was converted to a SH-14D using the Mk 88 and HAS 3 boxings. The kit was more or less finished early this year, but with the kit’s basic conventional rotor configuration. Only recently have I come round to change this to a folded rotor blade configuration using the Scale Warships conversion set. The port side engine compartment was opened and a resin engine added. The dummy torpedo was modified with detail added, using parts of a 1/48 A.M. Avenger torpedo. Although, perhaps an unlikely weapon combination, in addition a machine gun with platform was added to the starboard side. The machine gun was used in some operational situations. (Ref. YouTube search for: boardingteam Tromp Taipan) Since the 1/32 Dutch Decal Lynx sheet was unavailable, I asked Heli Scale Quality to print the decals for me. I supplied various images and they delivered. The decals are now available on their site. Paints by MRP I found this to be a very nice kit. The only critique I have was the use of white plastic, which for some reason wasn’t too pleasing to the eyes. Luckily the HAS 3 boxing has many more grey plastic parts in the box, but this is just personal. The Build report link is posted at the bottom of this post. Comments, critique, feedback are all welcome. Pictures were taken outside against a white vinyl sheet backdrop using an Iphone. With clouds passing you will notice a difference in image colours. The IPhone camera made most photos a little darker than they are in reality. The model is unfortunately too big for my photo box. 📷 Warning: picture heavy The “Work in Progress” report: Thanks for watching, Regards, Rob P.S. This build was inspired by Mr. Vreeze a Dutch model builder who built a 1/32 Lynx a few years back. Just loved the look of his Lynx. To not engage in a mere copy, I decided to fold the rotors.
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This the RFI for my Catalina I should be able to put a link here to the WIP, but somehow I'm to incompetent.. Well, to summarise: I got this Cat almost completely build, with some things missing. Got great advice here and started by removing all paint. It's a Revell kit and I found the building instructions at Scalemates. I used a decalsheet from Dutch Decal. For the blue I used Humbrol Pru Blu 230, for the black Panzer Grau of vallejo, and the light grey is also from Vallejo. Well, here it is; a Dutch Catalina of no 321 Squadron Royal Netherlands Naval service serial Y-45 in Rose Bay, Australia. I hope you enjoy the result: Now I need to find a place to display it. It's huge..
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Here's my first ship build, something I thought would be a quick easy ish build in between several aircraft kits. I start this RFI by standing, bowing, and intoning "oh those who make 1/700 or 1/600 scale ships, I salute your extraordinarily acute vision, tremble free hands and 20/20 hand eye coordination" Because goodness me, 1/350th very near wrecked my modelling spirit completely! It was all fun putting the hull together, then the various diving planes, then the propellor supports; then I saw the instructions say put part numbers 11 on part number 9 and 10. I looked on the sprues for parts number 11 - couldn't find them. Then looked at the part numbers on the sprues and found them. Uhh? I exclaimed, those are propellors? They looked like two of the little bits of deformed plastic after you'd cut a part off! Gulp - proceeding with extreme care, and resting on some blue tack, I managed to cut the tiny propellors off without losing them. And managed to stick them on without losing them. I know that back in my mid teens I made Airfix's HMS Tiger, which I think is 1/600th scale, and given I was probably about adult size then, I have no idea how I coped with the tiny - incredibly tiny parts there must have been in 1/600, because I sure as hell haven't coped well with some of these parts in 1/350th! I bought this kit on a whim at Hobbycraft; marked up as a tenner, I actually paid £7 for it. Now those of you who have built this kit, will probably say "You wuss, it was a lovely build, and easy peasy!" I repeat, until I got the propellors and conning tower it was a bit of fun! Trying to put the gun together; even with a steadying reverse tweezers that hold pieces I found it hard work. And then the gun platform rails; oh boy, I couldn't get these to stick to the gun platforms until I used a toothpick with a dab of superglue on the end. Except that one such piece of railing pinged off into the maw of the kraken * never to be seen again. (* Nautical name for the carpet monster) You'll notice the gap on the photos. Then painting. Oh dear, you need steadier hands and better eyesight than I have - even with my magnifying headset on! I did start to do some rust marks - then stopped very quickly because they don't look very good. The other paint masking at this scale was a touch difficult! However, I have chanted the phrase I now chant at the conclusion of a build - copied from a Britmodeller sage whose name I don't remember - "Finished is better than perfect"! So here are some photos of my completed U Boat in minature scale ! Thanks for looking.
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Hi all, Bit of a downer to start with... Following a rather distressing first quarter of 2025, I took an enforced break from work and embarked on a programme of de-stressing and mindfulness to try to get back to something approaching normal life over the past 8 weeks or so. Part of the fallout from that episode was that I was finding modelling too stressful, given that I like to build big projects with lots of aftermarket and photoetch. For that reason, I had to lay aside my Nimitz build and have been not-modelling for a prolonged period 😭 Luckily the modelling itch has started to come back, and I thought it would be nice just to do a pleasant, colourful, out-of-the-box build of a subject that suggests frivolity. partying and relaxation. So for that reason I've started the Revell AIDA cruise ship in 1/400. Look at that paint scheme! A ship with kissable lips! What's not to like? AIDA is a German subsidiary of the Italian cruise giant Costa Crociere, which is in turn owned by industry behemoth Carnival Cruises. The 4 ships of the modified Sphinx class are registered in Genova, Italy. Primarily aimed at the younger tranche of the vast German cruising market, AIDA boasts ecologically-friendly cruising with an emphasis on fun, physical activities and wellness on board. So that sounds like the sort of thing I should be focusing on right now 😅 First glance suggests this is an excellent kit: It's a big model, just over 63cm/2ft long. The hull is in two halves and most of the kit is moulded in white plastic. The other sizeable portion of the parts is in clear. In fact I've never seen a kit with so many clear parts. There are lots of really nice details in the box, and I can see this will build up into an impressive rendition of these modern cruise ships. Also there's that lovely box art: I guess it's not everybody's cup of tea, but then neither am I 😃 The ship comes in four flavours: the AIDAblu, AIDAsol, AIDAmar, and AIDAstella. They're effectively identical apart from a few small differences. I'll be building this as AIDAsol, which, despite its name, is based in Hamburg, Germany and mostly plies the northern routes from Bergen to the Bay of Biscay. This means she is a frequent visitor to our shores and in fact was at Portland just the other day: Dorset Echo article Anyway - it's supposed to be a therapy build. I'm trying novel techniques (for me) such as following the kit instructions, using Revell's paints and callouts, and just trying to have a good time building something for aesthetic appeal and feelgood factor rather than the big, ambitious vanity projects which I'm used to. I've just made you guys part of that therapy now, so I'm sure your wit and wisdom will contribute to my smooth recovery 😂 All the best, Alan
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Good day, This subject was suggested to me from a good friend. The highlights of this particular project are as follows…………….. 1. Exhaust section A. Open / end side of nozzle : Gunze Burnt Iron ( base color ), Gunze Silver dry brush on ends. Tamiya Copper XF-6 dry brush. Tamiya black wash B. Inner section : Tamiya Metallic Grey XF-56 ( base color ), Tamiya Gold X-31, Tamiya Purple X-16 dry brush, Tamiya black wash C. Heat shield : AK Extreme Steel, Tamiya black wash 2. Airframe : AK Air ADC Grey ( #AK11867 / FS16473 ), Ammo Light Grey Wash ( #A.Mig-1600 ), Tamiya NATO Black XF-69 Anti Glare panel, Tamiya Flat Black XF-1 Nose radome cover, Tamiya Black X-1 Flir end 3. Cockpit A. Ejection Seats : AK English Grey #AK11020, Tamiya Black wash, Gunze Silver dry brush, Tamiya Olive Drab XF-62 seat cushions, Tamiya Khaki Drab XF-51 seat belts. B. Interior : AK Air Dark Gull Grey ( #AK11884 / FS36231 ), Tamiya black wash, Tamiya Titanium Silver X-32 dry brush 4. Landing gear struts, bays & intake : Tamiya Flat White XF-2, Tamiya Chrome Silver X-11, Tamiya black wash 5. Decals : Caracal F-101B Voodoo Air National Guard #CD72011 6. Misc : True Details resin ejection seats, Master metal nose pitot tube, plumbers putty & fishing sinkers for nose ballast Despite the age of this kit, I found it to be still up to modern standards of very good fit between parts, fine recessed panel lines, and excellent detail. The instruction sheet was a bit vague but workable and pretty much straightforward. I added True Details resin ejection seats as the ones provided with the kit were very basic in detail. I chose not to weather this one too much as ANG aircraft were kept somewhat clean for the most part. Oddly, the nose landing gear was too “short” and fabricated some scrap sprue into an extension in order to have the airframe sit properly. Unfortunately there are no alignment pins for any of the three landing gear struts but they hold well after overnight setting. I tried no less than four different color combinations to find the appearance that I was seeking with the exhaust sections. What I listed in the highlights is what I felt looked best. Apart from the landing gear assemblies, this is a very nice kit. It`s too bad that it has been out of production for so long as the F-101 is a subject lacking in 72nd scale. I recommend it to those with a bit more experience. Thank you in advance, Mike
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Take this to Obi Wan Kenobi, he's the only one who can help us. Hmmm, I think I know of a pilot and ship to take us to Alderaan. Will you take us to Alderaan? In that heap of junk? That ship can do the Kessel run in 11 parsecs, it'll get us to Alderaan ok. Oh, no - evil Sith Lord Rev Ell has frozen Han Solo and Chewbacca in Carbonite! The ship is on autopilot .... And so our intrepid voyagers departed Tattooine for Alderaan, little knowing what lay ahead ........... So began Star Wars, (well, ish) and imprinted the Millenium Falcon in my mind. When I saw this for sale in Hobbycraft for £7, I just had to. And here it is! As a build, not many parts, about 20 odd, I think, quite straightforward and it jolly well looks like a Millenium Falcon. The build itself is pretty straightforward. There was some flash, mainly around the Han Solo and Chewbacca figures, which vcould, if you use your imagination, look like they are frozen in Carbonite ..... The rear engines I did by putting some Chrome finish bare metal foil on the base, and painting the clear plastic part with tamiya (thinned) clear blue. Other than that, I suspect I did a bit too much attempting to make the Falcon look like it had had a lot of wear and tear, and repairs, but it looks like it's been well used - I hope. Thanks for looking in.
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To satisfy the Australian element of the GB I have decided on another civillian build and have selected Revell's B Ae146-200 in Ansett colours using a set of Authentic Airliner decals. Here are the box and content photos along with one of the decal set. by John L, on Flickr by John L, on Flickr by John L, on Flickr I hope to make a start on this build soon. John
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Hello, after a bit of research you can see in this previous topic, I'm finally ready to start a project I toyed with more than I care to remember. When I was a young student, I used to visit a big bookshop in my town which had a rich aviation section to browse the books and look for something really valuable before purchasing. During one of those visits I stumbled upon this title, which being full color was quite expensive for my meagre finances, but I did not forget one of the aircraft in it, a quite old and battered PB4Y-2 Privateer converted to the drone mission and painted overall insignia red. Fast forward about 35 years... I regained interest in this subject when my local club decided to choose the B-24 and derivatives as the subject for this year's display. I already had a Matchbox kit in my basement, an essential ingredient to the project since it is now going for stellar prices even in its more recent Revell box, and some aftermarket to improve on the mediocre quality of the basic moulding. What I still missed after all those years were references, and with the help of @Sabrejet I made a small progress after purchasing "Point Mugu Test Centers" by Angelo Romano. Overall there are still too many black spots in the history of the drone Privateer and I wonder why so little has been documented, but I think I have to draw a line and be happy with what I have. So, without further ado, this is the box contents. Forgive the low contrast, I didn't realize this frame is nearly the same colour as the cutting mat! More will follow with my findings about the kit: I'm now convinced that at least 80% work will be on obtaining a decent Privateer and only 20% will be converting to the drone variant. For anyone interested, refer to this very informative thread by @Navy Bird who tells his experience with the kit and the Cobra Company resin correction set: I don't have it but won't regret it much after reading his comments. For a start, see how I got even a short shot in the right underside wing half on top of all the other inaccuraccies. Thanks for reading!
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... Did I do something wrong here? I'm building the 1:72 FW 190 kit from Revell, everything's going together more or less fine, then the rear canopy goes on like this: I'm totally thrown for a loop here, I can't get it to fit with either the frame or the front canopy, and trying to split the difference makes it look even worse. Did anyone else have this problem or did I miss something totally obvious?
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Hello all ! Here is my take on Sgt Peter Durnford's Spitfire Mk.Vb Night Fighter, JU-H (W3848) of 111 Squadron, Debden, December 1941: Kit used for the build was Revell's Mk.Vb, a kit which to be honest, I was pleasantly surprised with. Overall, it's a great little kit with sublime recessed detailing and a very good shape, but which seems to get little RFI exposure. I decided to improve a bit on this detail by fully riveting the fuselage and wings. The only real let down were the upper wing cannon blisters, which were awful. These were removed and replaced with the ones used in the earlier Revell Mk.V kit, where interestingly, they are separate items. Addons Used: Replacement De-Havilland propeller Eduard PE harnesses & belts Quickboost resin exhausts (for Tamiya kit) Rob Taurus vac formed sliding canopy (for Tamiya kit) Pilot from Airfix RAF Personnel set Many scratch built items IFF aerials donated by my wife. There seems to be a lot of debate as to whether these night fighter Spitfires had their upper wing roundels painted over or left on. To be honest, I couldn't garner a consensus, so I hedged my bets by masking and spraying the roundels, then overspraying them so that they were still there, but barely visible. Unfortunately, this effect doesn't seem to have come out too well in the photos, unlike the dust, which seems to appeared from nowhere !!! Paints used were all acrylic from Vallejo, Humbrol and Mig Ammo. Varnishes were Pledge, Mr.Aqueous Gloss and Winsor & Newton Galeria Matt. Weathering was a Flory wash followed by oils and Tamiya weathering powder. Decals were a combination of Xtradecals for the coloured 'bits' and Ventura for the lettering. Thanks for reading and taking the time to look. Comments and critiques will be most welcome. Gary
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Hi all and here's my latest finish, built for the F-16 group build here. The short build thread is here but to recap: Kit: Revell 04363 F-16A - lovely kit to build! Build: OOB, masking tape for belts Paints: Mr Hobby, Klear, Flory Models Wash, W&N Satin varnish Decals: Aftermarket by Astra ASD-7219 for the 60th anniversary of 323 Squadron, Royal Netherlands Air Force. Very brittle decals and found them really difficult to use/conform to the tail surface. Cracked in a number of....delicate places! Kit supplied stencils & walkways. There's also a 'winter' version of Diana on this sheet so another option for the next build. Thanks to @Col. for leading the group build. All the best and happy modelling. Dermot Revell_F-16A_MLU_Diana_done (10) Revell_F-16A_MLU_Diana_done (8) Revell_F-16A_MLU_Diana_done (9) Revell_F-16A_MLU_Diana_done (5) Revell_F-16A_MLU_Diana_done (1) With some other Vipers, all Revell. Revell_F-16A_MLU_Diana_done (6) Revell_F-16A_MLU_Diana_done (12)
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Allright, finnished s build yesterday First Timer Modelship So now continue with the Maritime theme, Modelkit, well picture needs no presentation, got it second hand on eBay, part sealed in bags. Will use AM this time wich i do not do often at all, so this time go all in with AM, all isnignias and markings will be painted, also some scratch. Yes....here it is and here goes. First things first reset the workplace. Nice boxart. Some reference books and all AM that ill use. And the build officially have started
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Finished this one a little while back. Solid kit for the price. As a small departure from how I normally build car models, this one does feature some slight weathering.
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Here's a little kit I finished as part of a Ukrainian themed GB. It is a lovely little kit from Revell in a scale I am not used to but thoroughly enjoyed. It is painted in Tamiya's NATO colours with decals from Star and loosely based on a gun that is out fighting in Ukraine. Cheers all, have a great week and keep on modelling.
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Hello all, Here are a couple of pictures of my Revell F-101B kit, that I converted to a recce version RF-101B. This is really a nice Revell kit, with good level of detail and a good fit overall. I did put some work into the following modifications: riveted the tail section, exhausts, fuel tanks and the wings (a bit); opened and detailed the nose avionics bay (not particularly aiming for accuracy); added some detail and wiring on the landing gear struts & bays and drilled out a few scoops; sculpted the camera section under the nose and removed the IRST fairing on top of the nose; added a blank plate under the fuselage, as the recce versions didn't carry armament under the belly; added splitter plates inside the intakes and reinforcement points between fuselage and intakes; added a Pavla resin cockpit, Armory weighted wheels and a Master pitot tube. I also replaced the kit's windscreen with a Valom RF-101C spare one, as the Revell version (I got this kit second hand) was damaged beyond my abilities to repair it. Paints are Gunze/Tamiya acrylics mainly, weathering with oils and some pigments. Decals come from various spare decal sheets. Credit background picture: https://www.freepik.com/free-photo/beautiful-hay-field-country-side_17240056.htm#page=2&query=open field distant mountains&position=5&from_view=search&track=ais Really pleased to have this recce bird in my collection. In 1/72 scale, only the venerable Matchbox kit exists of this Voodoo version as far as I know. As I now also have a Valom single seater kit in my stash, that will be a future project. Thanks for looking, comments always welcome! Cheers, Patrick
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With the launch of the 599GTB Ferrari announced a 20,000 mile tour, starting in Brazil and ending in New York having taken in 16 countries over 84 days. Two 599s, one red, one blue, would be driven by 50 international journalists. I had picked up the Revell 599GTB for cheap when I was on a building Ferraris journey and came across a set of decals for the Panamerican 20,000 whilst browsing a new to me decal website (Dominomodel). As is the way with these things I did a google search about it and a plan was formed. Get 2 sets of decals and do both coloured cars As a rule, I tend not to build my cars in their usual schemes. I.e. my Ferraris aren’t red. I think it comes from my military modelling background where schemes are relatively proscribed. With autos I feel there is a bit more freedom. My plan was to start with the blue one (partly to annoy a mate of mine that insists on Ferraris being red 😀) and then do the red one to surprise him. Upon checking my blues though I didn’t have the required shade so the red one became the first of the pair. i started by sanding down the mould seams and then primed the body in white. I use Tamiya White Laquer primer straight out of the can for this. At this stage I began to question my choice as I think it looks really good in white I then had to figure out how to deal with the white stripes down the side. The decal set provides them as decals but I considered masking them. Stupidly I didn’t. I added the decals and soaked them in MicroSol but I couldn’t get them settled to my satisfaction i left them as they were for a week and then sanded down the wrinkles as best as I could, added masking tape around the decals and got the white primer out again. This isn’t perfect but it is as good as I am going to get it. When I do the blue one I will mask and miss out the decals. Whilst carrying out my research I came across a fair few pictures on the web, the one below in particular stood out and I will do my best to replicate this finish, the blue one can be showroom shiny but this should help cover some stripe issues
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This kit needed quite long to complete. After so many years of modeling, although with long breaks, this was the first time I tried myself in plastic surgery. And I had to pause the construction for months, since - also for the first time - the decals of this kit, stored in the basement for twenty+ years, broke apart on application and were thus unusable. Thankfully, my favourite online hobbyshop (Hannants) came to rescue, since I found that Caracal had released a shett with early US Starfighters, including nearly the same scheme that was present in the kit. So, finally, I completed this nice little kit, now showing open panels with the battery and flight computer compartments behind the cockpit, a nice resin C2 seat (CMK) and the decals. I love decals, and especially stencils. The more better - I thought. So I was delighted to find a decal sheet dedicated only to F-104 stencisl, around 300 individual microscopic decals. Needless to say, I found my master and gave up after having applied some 150 of them. And I was annoyed to find that even after two days of drying, these tiny decals would not stick firmly to the model, so that a few of them were displaced just by the blow of the airbrush when sealing them. Marcus
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Revell's boxing of Dragon's kit, not the easiest build due to the instructions being a bit ambiguous in some places. Engines are meant to be posed either cowled or uncowled, but I don't think they are detailed enough to be shown off without a lot of additional work and the cowls don't fit properly over them (might have been builder error to be fair). Easier to leave the engines off and blank off the cowl openings before fixing in place. Only other major issue was the multi-piece canopy which required a bit of minor surgery to fit (again, could have been my fault). Still, it builds into a quite imposing model which sits nicely alongside my Tamiya Mosquito: Thanks for looking, J.A.
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This is my second plane attempt, I only usually focus on AFVs but now I am broadening my fields a bit. While the model release is new, the mold is an old one so the fit was horrendous in some places...... The front part of the jet and the fuel tank were very complicated to fit and keep in place. The decals were massive and I don't think I did a great job with them but at the same time I don't think they look all that bad. All in all I like the way it looks and I am happy with the result. One thing though, how would you recommend fixing decals? I use microset and microsol but it seems there is a bit of silvering lately when using them, should I just fix the decal without any medium then just soften it with Microsol and opt out of Microset completely? And how would you recommend gluing parts to an already painted model? like the missiles, landing gears and other pieces? I just do the weapons separate now but I want to go further, I only used super glue for them, any other methods you would recommend? Hope you enjoy this build, and if you have any criticisms or recommendation please let me know Thank you
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Revell 1:72 F-105D : Started in Sept '24 but came to a halt when the thirty-seven year old kit decals and forty-five year old Microscale decals both turned into molecule sized fragments the moment they hit the water. Now here is Memphis Belle II in all her pigeon-toed, knock-kneed glory - there's just no fixing the stance without investing in a brass, white metal or rigid resin replacement set. Other than the loadout and new AM decals from Kits-at-War, this is straight from the (1988) box. Mr Color lacquers for the camo, didn't even try to add a wash or weathering as it's only ever going to live in the cabinet. 'Owt much else to say. great nostalgia build. Cheers from NZ.
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I started this about a month ago (well after the GB started) and though I would share it here. Hope it is OK with the mods to run a thread on this build here? I am building the Revell kit and using 26 Decals for the BAWC scheme The kit has some warping issues which was sorted with tape and cutting mat It goes together fairly quickly when you have the time Major assemblies in the first of many test fits
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This is the newish revell boxing of their Eurocopter in 1/72. My club was doing a competition where we all built models from James Bond films as Revell bought out the whole range again and as Goldeneye is my favourite Bond movie and one of the best FPS shooter games ever made on N64 (ahhh the times we sat around as teenagers with pizza and coke playing 4 player), I had to build it. The kit itself is not bad, the detail is pretty good but I did have some issues fitting the instrument panels in the cockpit and the exhaust inserts on the back. I solved the cockpit by leaving out the offending parts that you can't see anyway and good amount of sanding on the back. I do like the fact that Revell have designed the canopy so you don't have to install it half way into the build, the section that covers it is separate and can be glued on later. They also give you separate windscreen wipers, a nice little detail that allows easier masking of the canopy and painting of the parts. Decals are very good, they only have decals for the movie helo, but you do get all the other parts to make a later model helo with gun, radar and different weapons. This prototype did not carry a nose gun, even in the movie.
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This is my rendition of the old Revell Starfighter in 1/32 scale. I liked this c/s with the dayglo tiptanks. This was in 1964, accordeon to the decalset by Dutch Decal. Kind regards, Gerben