kspriss Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 Hiya chaps. Does anyone know if any kits exist in either 72nd or 48th of these? I know that revell did a typhoon with has and ground equipment but they are like the proverbial rocking horse poo. Failing that, any pointers to drawings, plans that I could use to scratch build? Cheers Steve
SaintsPhil Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 I've been after similar my self, Verdelinden (think I spelt that right) did an RAF German one in 1/72 but it's long OOP I think! I remember distinctly having a kit of a RAF HAS as a kid in the late 80s early 90s, could have been a revell one! If you get anywhere with plans please share!! Phil
Giorgio N Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Yes, revell did issue an HAS back in the early '90s and this was also reissued later with an aircraft, the Tornado first and then the Typhoon. I vaguely remember it being issued with a Mirage III as well but I might be wrong with this one. It was not bad, but from memory it looked a bit small, an F-104 could fit inside but a Tornado would have struggled. I also vaguely remember having some drawings in electronic format, but can't remember where ! Edited January 24, 2012 by Giorgio N
xvtonker Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 Modakit released a 1/72 scale kit of a RAFG Mk 1 HAS a few years back. I've been keeping an eye out for one on EvilBay but with no luck XVTonker
Rob P Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 BigSky models did a 1:72 RAF Germany HAS back in the late 80's. Was pretty much DIY using the plans, Plastic Card and Polystyrene laminate board supplied. Has been discussed in a thread here (2008) I had one, but sadly never finished it as it was damaged in a move. I still have their Saudi Sun Shelter from 1991 though.
CarLos Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 Hiya chaps. Does anyone know if any kits exist in either 72nd or 48th of these? I know that revell did a typhoon with has and ground equipment but they are like the proverbial rocking horse poo.Failing that, any pointers to drawings, plans that I could use to scratch build? Cheers Steve I don't know if it's what you're looking for, but Airmodel has a German WW2 shelter: http://www.airmodel.de/index.php?cat=c28_1...rama-bases.html I thought it also had a contemporary, but I am probably wrong. (they also have some field equipment: http://www.airmodel.de/index.php?cat=c32_1...cessories.html) Carlos
kspriss Posted January 24, 2012 Author Posted January 24, 2012 BigSky models did a 1:72 RAF Germany HAS back in the late 80's. Was pretty much DIY using the plans, Plastic Card and Polystyrene laminate board supplied.Has been discussed in a thread here (2008) I had one, but sadly never finished it as it was damaged in a move. Hmmmm....that's got definite possibilities.... Steve
Wolfpack Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 FYI, there's a Revell HAS and Typhoon on evilbay now. W
Dave T Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 Yes, revell did issue an HAS back in the early '90s and this was also reissued later with an aircraft, the Tornado first and then the Typhoon. I vaguely It was not bad, but from memory it looked a bit small, an F-104 could fit inside but a Tornado would have struggled. That's because, although plugged as being 1/72 it is in fact continental HO scale. Just a selection of pertinant links from Google... http://www.modellversium.de/kit/artikel.php?id=705 http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37057 http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air...showtopic=73606
SaintsPhil Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 FYI, there's a Revell HAS and Typhoon on evilbay now.W Item number 230731455864 nothing to do with me by the way!!
Homebee Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) And for a 1/72 as well as 1/48 Warsaw Pact HAS Main link :http://www.gpm.pl/eng/index.php?akcja=kate...31&poziom=3 1/72: http://www.gpm.pl/eng/index.php?akcja=prod...amp;edycja=3218 1/48: http://www.gpm.pl/eng/index.php?akcja=prod...amp;edycja=3216 V.P. Edited January 25, 2012 by Homebee
Giorgio N Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 That card model looks great, and it's also quite cheap. Wonder how my Su-15 wold look like n one of those shelters...
Rob de Bie Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 BigSky models did a 1:72 RAF Germany HAS back in the late 80's. Was pretty much DIY using the plans, Plastic Card and Polystyrene laminate board supplied.Has been discussed in a thread here (2008) I had one, but sadly never finished it as it was damaged in a move. Very interesting, I had no idea something like this existed! I just spent 1 1/2 hours trying to align the scans as best as possible: Two things are now lacking: I don't know the exact size (roughly A3) and how do you put it together? Do you possible still have the instructions? Rob
TimB Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Rob, I can't find the instructions - I have them somewhere but after 13 house moves in 25 years... Basically, the top sheet was supposed to be cut from thick sheet - I think originally expanded polystyrene or the sort of platic foam in 2 sheets of polystyrene that art shops sell. I used foam tiles, glued between plastikard, if my memory serves me. The lining inside was corrugated steel - hence the comment on "planking". The bottom sheet was to be cut from 20 to 30 thou card, but things like doors (17-20) required several layers, plus detailing with bolt heads etc. I terms of the other bits, 41-56 were the ventilation ducts running at floor level inside each side from the rear, 20-21 the rear doors - I think, 57-62 was supposed to be the winch on the rear wall, and I have no idea about 29-40. My HAS (with a Harrier having an engine change) was built in the mid-1980s, and was well received at Farnborough IPMS, but fell of a bookcase in 2004. It is in a couple of boxes in the garage. One of these years I may do a rebuild. They were bloody awful things to work in - especially if you had 3 Harriers in each. Regards Tim 1
Rob de Bie Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Rob, I can't find the instructions - I have them somewhere but after 13 house moves in 25 years...Basically, the top sheet was supposed to be cut from thick sheet - I think originally expanded polystyrene or the sort of platic foam in 2 sheets of polystyrene that art shops sell. I used foam tiles, glued between plastikard, if my memory serves me. The lining inside was corrugated steel - hence the comment on "planking". The bottom sheet was to be cut from 20 to 30 thou card, but things like doors (17-20) required several layers, plus detailing with bolt heads etc. I terms of the other bits, 41-56 were the ventilation ducts running at floor level inside each side from the rear, 20-21 the rear doors - I think, 57-62 was supposed to be the winch on the rear wall, and I have no idea about 29-40. Hello Tim, Many thanks for responding. I had no way of asking whether I could repost your drawings, since your old account was no longer active. I hope you didn't mind! Many thanks for the identification of most of the parts, it's a big help. To scale the drawings correctly, could possibly measure the red and green dimensions on your originals? I know the 5mm foam board, I've used it at work to make templates. I would expect it to work well in this application. If all the parts could be cut on a plotter, you would have a real kit to assemble. Maybe the corrugated steel planking can be found in the Evergreen range? That would save a lot of work, but I think it would also be quite costly. An alternative would be to glue numerous strip of plastic card - very laborious. If I would have had too much time, I would have drawn all the parts in CAD and assembled them in 3D to see how they fit! I've long had plans to do a 15 or 16 sqn Buccaneer inside a shelter, and that plan has become a lot more realistic now. Many thanks!! Rob 1
Rob de Bie Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Hello Tim, I'm 'bumping' this thread in the hope that you spot it! I would still dearly like to know the dimensions of the shelter plans.. Pretty please? Rob
Homebee Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) That card model looks great, and it's also quite cheap. Wonder how my Su-15 wold look like n one of those shelters... Having purchased the GPM's Warsaw Pact HAS card kit and already started it, I confirm that it's a rather funny work. But that's also quite big! A picture: V.P. Edited March 5, 2012 by Homebee
Homebee Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) double post... Edited March 5, 2012 by Homebee
Blue Monday Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 I'd like to give credit where credit's due. http://www.gpm.pl/eng/index.php?akcja=prod...amp;edycja=3218 I ordered some stuff from these guys and they had miscalculated the postage. They let me know about this and have refunded the excess charge. It's good to see there are plenty of honest, decent people in this hobby. BM.
qn30jEkPz7 Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 Love this site - am looking at designing an HAS to run off on the laser cutter and 3D printer and my search brought me right back to Britmodeller and this thread.
qn30jEkPz7 Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 On 24/01/2012 at 22:52, xvtonker said: I've been keeping an eye out for one on EvilBay but with no luck On 28/01/2012 at 19:45, TimB said: One of these years I may do a rebuild. On 24/01/2012 at 21:25, kspriss said: Does anyone know if any kits exist in either 72nd or 48th of these? On 24/01/2012 at 23:10, Rob P said: I had one, but sadly never finished it as it was damaged in a move. On 25/01/2012 at 16:14, Giorgio N said: Wonder how my Su-15 wold look like n one of those shelters. On 27/01/2012 at 21:04, Rob de Bie said: Very interesting, I had no idea something like this existed! On 24/01/2012 at 21:35, SaintsPhil said: I've been after similar my self Hi folks, just checking if this itch is still there as I’ve worked up & laser cut two RAF HAS shelter designs in 1/72 Any of you still wanting one? If so let me know and I’ll run some off
JPuente54 Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Send a couple of notes to "Noy's Miniatures" to print a couple of them. They just printed an Israeli HAS in 1/72nd, I believe. Their quality is quite good; it is on paper/card; but, look very real. Edited January 8, 2020 by JPuente54 Correct spelling
qn30jEkPz7 Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 44 minutes ago, JPuente54 said: Send a couple of notes to "Noy's Miniatures" to print a couple of them. They just printed an Israeli HAS in 1/72nd, I believe. Their quality is quite good; it is on paper/card; but, look very real. Just had a look - their Israeli one looks good. Hopefully my home-made ones will get even halfway close
Rob de Bie Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 I just found a really nice set of construction photos of the TAB-Vs at Soesterberg: https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/foto-s/?q=shelterbouw&fq%5B%5D=search_s_mediatype:%22Foto%27s%22&mode=gallery&view=horizontal Maybe the details are useful for anyone building one in scale. Rob 1
Julien Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 We have a HAS walkaround if any use to anyone 1
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