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  1. To be honest, the aircraft remained remarkably clean during their time at Muharraq. When I worked on them the hemp/lag scheme seemed to resist the oiI & dirt better than the green/grey/white scheme. XVTonker
  2. Now THAT sounds right!!! When you look at pictures of the B.2 that's the only dome visible. Nice one... XVTonker
  3. After six years on Victor K.2's at RAF Marham I'm pretty clued up on all things Victor but that second domed panel is causing me some grief. I have some recollection that there was some kind of aerial or it had something to do with the navigation system under there. I can only remember that panel being removed once in all the time I served on them. XVTonker
  4. The larger of the two domes on top of the fuselage is an access panel for the fuselage fuel proportioners which are part of the fuel transfer system. Sadly I can't remember what the second panel is. XVTonker
  5. From memory the RAFG GR.1A rear cockpit differed from the GR.1 by replacing the special weapons panel with the reconnaissance control panel. These were situated on the left hand side console below the Weapons Control Panel No2. XVTonker
  6. Regarding the Tornado upperwing roundel, I don't ever remember them being applied to the Muharraq aircraft. We operated the four 'Snoopy Airways' aircraft and they didn't carry any roundels or fin flashes. XVTonker
  7. Hi Neil, The one at Yeovilton has had a respray in the past as much of the stencilling seen in period pictures of the A/C are no longer there. XVTonker
  8. Very true. I know that when I was stationed at RAF Wyton in the late 70's we had T.4's, T.17's, PR.7's & PR.9's and you could find wheel wells in all three colour!!
  9. You can actually paint them in either black or gloss white. Canberras wheel wells were painted white during major servicing. Before that they were black. XVTonker.
  10. Yeah, already been there but is virtually no stencilling applied, only the basics. XVTonker.
  11. I did write a letter to Ian Huntley of Scale Aircraft Modelling after the Gulf War details of which were used in his monthly column in Volume 14 Issue 4. For those that are interested this the content of the letter sent to Ian in 1992: Dear Mr Huntley, Firstly let me introduce myself, my name is John Cotterill and I am a SNCO aircraft electrician currently serving on, the soon to he disbanded, XV Squadron Tornado's here at RAF Laarbruch. I read, with great interest your article on Middle East colours in the June edition of SAM and, after being based at Muharraq for four months, including the full period of the conflict I would like to try and throw some light on the various schemes used on aircraft based at Muharraq. As you rightly say the initial scheme on the Tornado GR.1's was, and basically still is, an alkaline based paint closely resembling FS30279. Needless to say, in the run up to the conflict the finish tended to become very weathered and also had a tendency to flake off, especially around the base of the fin area. The weathering caused the paint to appear darker in hue. Accordingly, the overall desert finish had to be maintained and we subsequently applied "Leyland" eggshell emulsion (colour Blush) to the offending areas, which gave the appearance of a lighter shade of sand thus giving a false impression of a two tone camouflage scheme, in addition the original squadron tail codes were partially painted out to introduce an alphabetical tail code sequence for ease of identification for the groundcrew and especially the aircrew. As the war progressed wear and tear on the aircraft again became a problem, by which time supplies of FS30279 were readily available and after touching up, some aircraft appeared to have adopted a three tone scheme The introduction of 2250 litre "Hindenburg" underwing fuel tanks caused further problems as they were issued to us in their original air defence grey finish. All the tanks were subsequently hand painted in the Leyland Blush emulsion before being fitted to the aircraft. I have enclosed a sample of the emulsion that was used on a wide range of items of equipment including aircraft, vehicles and ground equipment, in addition I have also enclosed a sample of the original alkaline paint used during the initial preparation of the Tornado's for deployment to the Gulf. In your article you mentioned that the Victor K.2's of 55 squadron were also- finished in the desert scheme, in actual fact they retained their Hemp and light aircraft grey finish, which stood up exceptionally well to the harsh weather conditions experienced. I hope that some of this information will help you in some way to making a thorough listing of the various schemes used during Operation Granby. Further to the above I later identified the Leyland 'Blush' emulsion being a match to BS381C-369 'Biscuit' which in turn is a very close match to FS33711. Here's a picture of a battle weary ZD790 'Debbie' taken just after the cease fire had been announced, showing the various colour variations XVTonker
  12. I'm getting myself worked up to start my Dynavector Supermarine Scimitar and am drawing my own decals to use with it. What I'm looking for are any Air publications, documents, pictures or drawings showing the stencilling on the airframe. Is there anyone out there than can guide me in the right direction? Thanks XVTonker
  13. If you're planning to build a Tornado based at Muharraq in a weathered finish the paint we initially used to touch up the areas where the desert pink had worn off was Leyland 'Blush' emulsion which was readily available and, I believe, had been used to paint the RAF & Army vehicles & ground equipment already in theatre. The larger 2250 ltr Hindenburger underwing tanks were also hand painted using Leyland Blush. Towards the end of the conflict supplies of the alkaline desert pink were readily available and used instead of the Leyland Blush. What you ended up with were aircraft in their original weathered Desert Pink with Leyland Blush & freshly painted Desert Pink added giving the appearance of a three tone camouflage. Apparently the painters & dopers back in Germany were not impressed when they tried to remove the emulsion from the aircraft on their return.. XVTonker
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