Adamski Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I have a Yak-3 painted in standard late war med grey / dark grey camo and I’ve just been given another Yak-3 kit (zvevda 1/48). So I want to paint it in a different colour scheme, but I’m unable to find any examples of Yak-3s in anything other than the standard grey camo, I’ve not even been able to find a picture of a Yak-3 in winter camo, did they even over paint the late war camo with winter white? Any suggestions? I’ve seen some variations of the grey scheme on post-war Czech/polish/Yugoslav Yaks but I’m looking for something before the end of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Why not a French? The Normandie - Njemen Squadron flew home in this camouflage: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/9684527463/in/photolist-fKMJBr-9ajguF Here some other options: http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/268/21/0#3 modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlanceHR Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Before the end of WW2 some VVS units in Europe switched to single upper grey color, usualy after aircraft overhaul. I'm afraid that is the only variation you'll find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, Adamski said: I have a Yak-3 painted in standard late war med grey / dark grey camo and I’ve just been given another Yak-3 kit (zvevda 1/48). So I want to paint it in a different colour scheme, but I’m unable to find any examples of Yak-3s in anything other than the standard grey camo, I’ve not even been able to find a picture of a Yak-3 in winter camo, did they even over paint the late war camo with winter white? The VVS stopped winter white in winter 42/43 AFAIK. 24 minutes ago, Adamski said: Any suggestions? I’ve seen some variations of the grey scheme on post-war Czech/polish/Yugoslav Yaks but I’m looking for something before the end of war. For a wartime Yak-3 AFAIK, it's grey all the way. I'll @John ThompsonTh On this, until I can dig out the Soviet warplanes link... I hate this tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiampieroSilvestri Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 The aerobatic team of the VVS had Yak-3. Saluti Giampiero 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werdna Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Even with the standard 'two greys' camo, there are still plenty of nicely decorated Yak-3s to choose from. Many were painted with patriotic slogans, messages from donators/benefactors and medal/ribbon decorations - lots to choose from in that sense.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlanceHR Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 @Troy Smith http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/yak3/misos/profiles.htm Are these the electrons you are looking for? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, GiampieroSilvestri said: aerobatic team of the VVS had Yak-3. Post war. OP asked for wartime. Great scheme though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Weren't some prototypes painted overall bright red? That would turn some heads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, Vlad said: Weren't some prototypes painted overall bright red? That would turn some heads... the pre Yak-1, I-26 this one http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/yak1/Misos/i26/i26.htm which was pre-war, the Yak-3 was late war, the Yak- series does not follow a numerical sequence, 1, 3, 7, 9, more that the wartime 1-7-9 are kinda linear, but the -3 is more of an offshoot, with a new smaller wing. The Yak family are more complex than usually thought. I certainly only have a passing knowledge of the differences between variants, and that's without getting into the post war Yak-P/U all metal types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Easy-peasy - work your way through these pdfs of the instruction sheets for the Begemot Yak-3 decals and take your pick; these are 1/72, but they're also available in The Godforsaken Scale*: http://www.begemotdecals.ru/showpos.php?lang=2&id=104 http://www.begemotdecals.ru/doc/72-047 Yak-3 p1.pdf http://www.begemotdecals.ru/doc/72-047 Yak-3 p2.pdf * http://www.begemotdecals.ru/showpos.php?&lang=2&pic=1&id=105 John 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Troy Smith said: ... the Yak- series does not follow a numerical sequence, 1, 3, 7, 9, more that the wartime 1-7-9 are kinda linear, but the -3 is more of an offshoot, with a new smaller wing. The Yak family are more complex than usually thought. Actually the Yak single-seaters followed the numerical sequence, as there were Yak-3 (I-30) and Yak-5 (I-28) prototypes designed and built between the 1940 Yak-1 (I-26) and 1941 Yak-7 (UTI-26). However, since the aforementioned -3 and -5 never entered VVS service, the AviaProm NarKomat re-allocated the Yak-3 designation to the new 1944 variant with smaller wings, rather than naming it Yak-13. And why not -11? Because this designation was already assigned (very briefly) to the VK-107-engined all-metal Yak-9 project. Only when it was put into service in 1946 as the Yak-9P, the "released" designation Yak-11 was passed (contrary to the general principle of assigning odd numbers only to single-seat fighters) to the radial-engined trainer variant of Yak-3 (1944). Cheers Michael 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 The Yak-9U was wartime. However the 1-7-9 do form a continuous development line whereas the origin Yak-3 had a significantly different wing.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Graham Boak said: The Yak-9U was wartime. However the 1-7-9 do form a continuous development line whereas the origin Yak-3 had a significantly different wing.. Yes, Graham, but I never claimed the Yak-9U was postwar. The Yak-11 designation was assigned briefly to the all-metal version with the VK-107 engine, which entered production in 1946 as the Yak-9P. And the different design of the Yak-3 (I-30) wing, with a flat centre part and dihedralled outer parts, did not in any way prevent it from giving it another (after Yak-1) odd number in the 1-3-5-7-9-11 sequence Cheers Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 You didn't: Troy did. Why should the original Yak-3 not have received its designation in chronological sequence? After all, the MiG-5 had no connection to the 1-3-7-9-11 development line. The later Yak-3 is an oddball because it remains the (only?) re-allocation of an earlier number after the adoption into service of later ones. The later adopted MiG-9 did not go back to the -5 but continued after the line of adopted numbers. It is perhaps interesting to note that the MiG-7 appears to be in a slightly anomalous position in that it was not taken up for mass production but did serve in very small numbers. But this has drifted away from the original theme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Thanks for all your replies and links to my original question. Looks like for wartime colour scheme, as I suspected, its 2 tone grey or possibly single grey only. Variation will have to come from the wide variety of markings and there is a plenty of choice on the Begemot decals. This is my first post on this forum and I'm amazed at all the enthusiastic and informative responses. Cheers all and happy modelling! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLinevitch Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 15/05/2021 at 14:53, Adamski said: Thanks for all your replies and links to my original question. Looks like for wartime colour scheme, as I suspected, its 2 tone grey or possibly single grey only. Variation will have to come from the wide variety of markings and there is a plenty of choice on the Begemot decals. This is my first post on this forum and I'm amazed at all the enthusiastic and informative responses. Cheers all and happy modelling! Is that okay? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlanceHR Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 VK-108? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Tessitori Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 VK-107, prototype 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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