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Werdna

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  1. Thanks I do have my daughter's old Canon DSLR, but having tried it, the results have not been appreciably better than with my mobile. I think the main issue is lighting.....or maybe lack of it. I'll need to do some more work on that, I think..
  2. Thanks Bob 152s were reportedly painted in the late war green combo of 81 and 82 over 76. I used Vallejo camo dark green for the 81 and Mig Ammo's RLM82 both out of the bottle. I mixed a bit of pale grey in with the RLM76, just to take the edge off the blue. HTH
  3. Original post edited to add a few more pics under different (better or worse? - you decide) lighting...
  4. Thanks Bob. However, I doubt if we will ever find out if these aircraft were H-0 or H-1. Most of Urbanke's research was gleaned from various JG301 logbooks, where the tactical numbers were logged, but often without a colour reference or WNr. I doubt if any confirmation of sub-type will ever be known. The way I see it, there's a 50% chance it's either one - or the other
  5. Thanks all for the comments Bob - Urbanke's research (well worth reading, by the way) points to Ta152s being assigned to a number of units within III/JG301, each with their own tactical code colours, as well as the more well-known green codes of JG301's Geschwaderstab. It's not known if it was an H or an H-1, as far as I can tell.
  6. I last built one of these, from the old Italeri kit, about 18 months ago. However, I was inspired to build another one after reading Axel Urbanke's excellent article on Ta152 operations in a recent edition of 'Luftwaffe in Focus', which also throws some more light on the tactical numbers and colours used by the various staffeln and stabsschwarm that operated the Ta152 within JG 301. Anyway, this is 'red 2' of 10. staffel, III/JG 301, built from the Trimaster offering of this kit. Didn't seem to go together as well as the Italeri offering, but that might just be me. Painted mostly with a mixture of Vallejo and Mig acrylics. Hope you like it Edited to add a few more pics in different lighting. I really must sort out my photography skills (or lack of them)...
  7. Hi all Apologies if this has been posted before, but I just came across this on YT. Colour newsreel footage of captured German kit on display in Moscow, apparently in 1943. The first few minutes deals with various aircraft, including 109, 190, 189, 111, etc, while the rest of the film looks at captured German armour & artillery..
  8. I think if they did that, they would probably just be confirming what seems to have already been studied by Kiroff, Ullman and others (and not significantly disputed, as far as I'm aware) - that there was more than one version of 81. As an example, on the RLM camo guide for the Ta152 (there was discussion on this topic here recently), 81 and 82 are specified as upper surface colours. The RAF intelligence report on its captured Ta152s stated the upper surfaces were painted in 'various shades of green' - no mention of brown. Either the painting instructions were ignored - necessarily or otherwise (which is possible, I suppose), or 81 was developed in more than one colour. Having said that, I still believe brown is a more likely '81' colour for the He162, as far as I can tell..
  9. This is also addressed in the thread I linked to earlier.
  10. In the discussion I linked to earlier, there is an original colour image of a Ju88 wearing this 'blue' camo
  11. I'm not sure this was ever the case. At the risk of diverting the thread, I'll just say that there are a number of discussions on here relating to RLM83, including this one linked to below: Which goes back to what I was saying earlier - that it's simpler to just discount the '83' designation, as it is more than likely just a mis-identified green shade of 81. Fundamentally though, you have a choice of dark(ish) brown, dark green and light green, regardless of the relevant RLM designation. Within certain parameters, nobody can criticise the outcome, because there is no absolute proof either way
  12. It's entirely plausible that they did this, I guess. I don't know enough about the 162 to take a definitive view. Either way, both green 81 and 71 are broadly 'dark green' in colour, so telling them apart in period pics might be difficult.
  13. Hi Bob I'm not one of the experten here, but I think I'm right in saying that RLM71 was discontinued for camo use (it was retained for propeller use) a year or so previously. So I'd be surprised if the fuselage was indeed 71. IMHO, the colours for the 162 are likely to be the late-war RLM 81 and 82, over a base of either RLM 76 or the late war variation referred to as '84'. Bear in mind that what is sometimes called 'RLM83' green was more than likely just one of the late war variations of RLM81, which seems to have been produced in two or more discrete variants, one being a dark brown (or dark olive), and another being a dark green. So the darker colour is probably going to be 81 (green or brown) while the lighter colour is going to be 82 (green). I built a 162 a while back and finished it in the brown 81 + 82 combo. (Correction re above - it was RLM70 which was retained for prop use - not 71. I believe both were discontinued as camo colours though)
  14. Thanks Mike - happy to hear any comments and it's all useful info All the painted (ie non NMF) examples I've seen appear to have been blown over with a spray gun to a greater or lesser extent- or at least have that appearance. Some have quite a defined set of 'squiggles' painted over the bare metal, while others seem to have gone for a bit more 'coverage', while still leaving a lot of gaps - which is the effect I was going for in this case. I've read about the silver or grey/green dope control surfaces, but if I'm honest I don't know enough about the Ki-61 to know an 'early' from a 'late' and given that this was a non-specific build anyway, I went with silver I like the idea of doing a few more 'worn', 'chipped' IJA aircraft though, so will take all the comments
  15. Hi all, and season's greetings This is Hasegawa's 1/48 Ki-61 Hien, built OOB, but using Montex masks for the insignia & markings. It's not modelled on any specific aircraft, but intended to represent a rather worn, weathered example from the 18th Sentai, based at Chofu for home defence duties in 1945. I've always been keen on the look of the IJA field-applied/flaking 'ad hoc' camo schemes and I hope it worked. Hope you like the pics - happy new year to all
  16. Actually, further to the above, I've just signed in from my phone and the munsell colour now looks completely different- much closer to an RLM '84' type appearance. Apologies for questioning it earlier, but it just goes to show how different colours can look depending on the device they are viewed on. Anyway, carry on..
  17. Do you mean that people may have been mistaking '119D' for a new RLM colour (ie '84')..? If so, I think the appearance of the two 'colours' is different enough for that not to be the case. (the munsell reference is coming up on my monitor as a kind of pale/mid grey and seems quite a distance from 84).
  18. Do you mean for the cartoon plane, or in general? I don't think 02 has ever been suggested as an underside colour for the 'real' 190D, as far as I'm aware..
  19. Looks a lot like it was based on the colour pics of 500570/Blue 12 to me. Can't remember the precise colour call-out for that off-hand, but it's well documented..
  20. Thanks for all the comments Andy/Gary - I took a lead from some old pics of the 'Australian' Komet - pre restoration - which showed quite a few patches of red primer, especially towards the rear. I didn't want to over-do it though...
  21. Hi all This is the old Revell/Dragon Me163, finished in the markings of White 18, flown by Lt Jupp Mulstroh of 2/JG400 at Brandis during late 1944. Fairly straightforward build, although building the landing skid in the 'down' position was a bit of a challenge and I can see why a lot of these builds show them as retracted Painted with a mix of Vallejo and Mig acrylics and using the kit decals, which despite being ancient went on fairly well. I tried to leave a bit of a shine on the overall finish, as I understand that these aircraft were waxed and polished for maximum speed during the climb. Anyway, here's the pics...
  22. I was expecting a pic of Lionel Messi then, tbh. That just demonstrates my preconceived ideas about 'Lionels', unfortunately...
  23. The 'swoosh' proposal/theory (the name isn't ideal, but then neither are names like RLM84, but it's still clear what is being referred to) does seem to fit in terms of unpainted panels and late war camo patterns, as demonstrated above. There are enough pictures out there (mostly b&w admittedly) which seem to show this feature, all taken from various different angles, which would seem to rule out the 'trick of the light' defence. So at the moment, we see a number of pics of (mostly, I think) Fw190s, all apparently with the same or similar tonal/colour variation at roughly the same section of the fuselage, while we also have evidence of a RLM camo pattern diagram, which - if followed correctly - might actually produce an effect similar to that seen in the pics - especially if the panels in question had received some kind of protective/anti-corrosive treatment. I'd say that's at least worth looking at further. The other alternative is that we all just accept the notion that knowledge of luftwaffe colours and paint application has already peaked and there is nothing more out there to discuss. Stuff like this is often hiding in plain sight - discussion is harmless and it might even lead to something, or it might not, who knows.
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