John Masters Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, John_W said: lightening holes in the clamshell door frames Aha! I know what they are...the frames that go in the doors themselves have all those little holes in them...right? Yes...that would make a nice difference in the look. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Hello @John D.C. Masters ... This is a good photo. Dennis 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Great idea John ! There was a "Fana de l'aviation" dedicated to these "pseudo" french C-119 Mainly piloted by U.S "Advisors" I will have a look if it can help ! Sincerely. CC Oh great start on your boxcar !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Thanks Corsair. That would be very interesting to see. An early L'Air Americain... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 ...and an excellent photo of the clamshell too...thank you Dennis. I'll post pictures of the frames tomorrow... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Nice work! Looks great! Håkan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adey m Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) On 17/07/2018 at 18:54, John D.C. Masters said: Thanks John. What are lightening holes? These are the many holes that you see in the structural framework of an aircraft. By removing the metal that would have filled that hole the aircraft designer is making that part of the structure lighter but not weaker. regards, adey Edited July 18, 2018 by adey m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Thanks Adey. I drilled out the two parts last night. I'll post some pictures later today. Thanks Håkan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Thanks for the tip John. It's coming along... Lightening holes drilled...I'll be adding more detail to these doors per the excellent photo from Dennis! 30gms of weight added, cargo floor added, cockpit ready to be installed...oh, by the way, all the glass is in save for the windscreen. The ceiling piece needed some thinning at the bulkhead end so it fit snugly where and as it should. While the starboard side is attached, glued, etc...I have test fitted the port hull section just to see. Looks like a cargo plane to me! While the test fitting looks ok, there will have to be some filler added here... ...and here... I'll get around to closing her up tonight. I will also mask the windscreen and assemble the clamshells with some added detail since they will be very visible. I am contemplating building the little Dodge, but what I would really like is a 1/72nd Deux Chevaux...😉 I also have a plastic bag full of odds and ends from ship building supplies for a diorama that was never built--barrels, boxes, and so forth. I think I'll put them in there close to the opening. Something fun! --John 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 I jumped around the plans and assembled the larger components--booms, wings, wheels, etc...I figure I can let that dry and then have a closer inspection for any gaps. So far the fit seems pretty tight with very few gaps to fill. Perhaps a bit of sanding here and there. Oh yes...and I had to raid the laundry line for more clothespegs clamps. Good thing I did the washing yesterday! Just for kicks I laid it all out... To paraphrase that famous Dreyfuss/Shaw/Schieder film about fishing.....I'm going to need a bigger bench. Really...I will clear off most of the tools, bottles etc...to make room for this bird before I start putting it all together. --John 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adey m Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 My wife would go mad if I took that many pegs It is progressing well ( and quickly ) so far John. A modeller can never have enough paint and brushes .................... regards, adey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish 251 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 IIRC the kit nosegear doors are inaccurate - much too long compared to photos. This is easily fixed and worth doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Very well done and very fast work John! 🙂 Looking forward for your Bird in NMF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 Thanks Niko...at the risk of sounding daft...what is NMF? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 hours ago, John D.C. Masters said: Thanks Niko...at the risk of sounding daft...what is NMF? NMF is stands for the Natural Metal Finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggu Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 What are you going to do for the "NMF" finish? I am currently trying a technique used by Rob Lyttle on this site, ( he is doing a DC7, and has previously done a couple DC3's )and that is the foil tape used for furnace ducting........ you can buy it real cheap from the hardware stores, and believe it or not, it works, and works damn fine...... I initially thought it may be too thick, but on my 1/72 C 47 it is working quite nicely... and Rob uses it on 1/144 kits........... amazingly ( I hate that word by the way) it can be burnished down over the smallest of details and compound curves... I was pleasantly surprised, and a small benefit, is , also, it is strong, if you mess up, you can pull it off, without tearing, for what it's worth, it may be worth a look and a try?? Cheers Jeff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Nikolay Polyakov said: Natural Metal Finish Yes...of course...I think I knew that. The acronymical jargon escapes me sometimes... 2 hours ago, Biggu said: foil tape used for furnace ducting Yes...it is intriguing and I have plenty. I use it in my darkroom to render the space 'light tight'. However, not to disappoint, but I will probably use White Aluminum Air from Vallejo. I would like to try the tape sometime, but I would rather experiment on something smaller to start. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggu Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 No worries, John, it was just a random thought............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 Not at all...someday I'll take this route. It has always intrigued me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Looking good John and going together quickly too. Keep up the good work. All the best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 A busy day here at the factory on the hill...too hot to do much after 11AM so I stayed inside after my morning errands. I took care of a lot of little things (wheels, landing gear, props, etc...) and also assembled the primary substructure of the Boxcar. I filled in the gaps, let it all dry, cleaned it up...I masked all the glass including the windscreen and that is now drying in situ... Not having a hole punch, I used my swivel knife for the little 3mm discs on the windows and the masks on the wheel hubs. If anyone ever releases a mask set for this model, I may have to build another just to use it. Here's the pics... The swivel knife...note the two sets of small round holes. One set was too small...You can see the doors in the background already masked. Yellow tips are brush painted. I still can't get a decent coverage with yellow from the airbrush... Looks like an aeroplane... Consider this the mirror image of the port aspect... et voila! I'll give this a few hours, cover up the open spaces and take it outside to prime it with Humbrol rattle can primer. Night time is a good time to do this here. Cooler and drier. One interesting thing...the metal landing gear I purchased is actually for the C-119 from the 1960s, i.e. w/ dual nose wheel. This is not my bird. I will use the kit supplied set. They are also better detailed. I will add some wires and hoses since they are so large and prominent. Phew! --John 15 minutes ago, bigbadbadge said: Keep up the good work Thanks Chris! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 You've really got the bit between the teeth on this John: amazing progress! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, TheBaron said: amazing progress! It's all about components and leap-frogging the building plans. I'm eager to start the NATO/Warsaw GB so I want this one under my belt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 Primer... Some black shading, top and bottom. I'll let that sit for the night. Question to the group...the black sections that will be on the underside of the fuselage and the engine nacelles and parts of the wings...should I paint them first then mask them off for the rest of the paint job, or do the opposite, i.e. paint the aircraft then mask off the areas I will need to paint flat black? I am leaning towards the latter... --John 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Because of possible damage to the metal surface by masking tape, doing the black first then masking it off so you can do the metal effect seems a less risky practice You are galloping along with this one, lovely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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