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  1. The following has been distilled from the information contained in the revised (2008) edition of "Dambusters: The Definitive History of 617 Squadron At War 1943-1945" by Chris Ward and Andy Lee (Red Kite). There are some differences from the article in Alex's link. There was a total of 23 Type 464 PROVISIONING Lancasters: the one missing from the article is the first prototype ED765/G. The surviving Type 464 Lancasters seemed to have remained available to the squadron. They were used only very occasionally on operations until a little flurry by several of the aircraft in November 43 to Jan 44. Later still ED817 undertook 3 operations between 20 and 24/4/44. During those operations they often dropped 12,000 lb bombs but not invariably (eg ED906 and ED932, Pas de Calais on 4/1/44 when the aircraft, described by the book as Type 464 variants, flew with a reduced load of 11 x 1000lb bombs when the rest of the squadron carried 14). Most of the surviving Type 464 Lancasters were flown out to storage at Metheringham on 15/4/44: "The intention was that they should be flown occasionally and maintained sufficiently to allow their return to operations, should the need arise." The last operational mission undertaken by a Type 464 Lancaster was, as far as I can see, by ED909 (Mickey Martin's P-Popsy from the Dams Raid) on 8 June 1944 (8 x 1000lb bombs plus 6 x 7" clusters). Not surprisingly there are no photos in the book of Type 464 Lancasters after the dams operation so the extent of any conversions back to standard configuration remains, to my mind, a matter of conjecture. I haven't spotted anything in the form of hard evidence in the cited article. My money is that they stayed in recognisable Type 464 configuration for the rest of their careers, with those used on operations having no bomb doors, possibly retaining the fore and aft fairings (if, rpt if that is consonant with carrying a 12,000lb MC bomb or 11 x 1000lb bombs) and probably without the bomb-carrying arms Postscript: the Air Britain serials listing does not record Type 464 aircraft serving with any squadron (or unit) after 617 Sq with the exception of the 3 issued to 61 Sq for Op GUZZLE (post-war disposal of redundant UPKEEP mines).
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    Good on yer! We pass this way only once so make the most of it. Enjoy - you've earned it.
  3. Seahawk

    G.A.L. Hotspur

    Always nice when someone says thank you for help received. That's an absolutely lovely build of the Frog Hotspur. Well done!
  4. Or maybe from the Airfix Seafire F.17, which comes with 2 sets of wheels? Not that I know anything about this 1/48 malarkey, you understand.
  5. Think that photo is reversed. Looks like an AW-coded aircraft (42 Sq).
  6. On that logic I can confidently look forward to the new 1/72 Sea Fury, Javelin, Sea Vixen, Walrus.... Happy days indeed! Oh, wait...
  7. It's been 8 years since I failed to dash out and buy Consolidated Mess when it was first published. The one that got away: I blinked and missed it.
  8. Good tries. Near misses, but not the thread I had in mind: I know because I scissors-and-pasted parts of it. And, because Microsoft Word has apparently had the temerity to take all my Open Office Writer files hostage unless I pay the evil beggars the licence fee for a product I don't want, I can't paste them back here.
  9. Seahawk

    Happy Easter!

    I have a feeling crème eggs and hot cross buns are now considered non-seasonal but this was a whole aisle devoted to Easter eggs. Whatever happened to St Valentine's Day as the first post-Christmas excuse to sell minuscule amounts of chocolate at scandalously inflated prices?
  10. Seahawk

    Happy Easter!

    Saw Tesco setting up the Easter egg display Fri 10 Jan. Is this a record?
  11. Somewhere on this site there is a thread in which the dear departed Miggers discussed this topic in some depth. He demonstrated, to my satisfaction at least, that early Seafire F.17s had 4-spoke wheels and no wheel bulge and that Seafire F.17 SX330 and onward had 3-spoke wheels and the big over-well bulges to accommodate them (the 4-spoke wheels are 10.25" wide while the 3-spoke ones are 12".). It also included the clearest photos I have seen of said bulge. The Airfix 1/48 Seafire F.17 kit has both types of wheel but does not have the bulge: this means that some of the marking options are not strictly applicable unless the wings are modified. Good luck in finding the thread. I've tried! No, no-one that I have heard of has produced these wheel bulges in 1/48.
  12. I'm sorry, you're quite right. Bill did some of the other titles. And it looks as if there was a reprint or 2nd ed around 1990.
  13. And W A (Bill) Harrison Bruce Robertson authored a book called Beaufort Special back in the 1970s. One of quite a good series published by Ian Allen (Spitfire, Hurricane, Lysander, Swordfish).
  14. Cornwall, always a hotbed of technical innovation, is ahead of you on this one. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4914205/christmas-tree-worst-cornwall-cornetto-residents/
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