Monogram CF-101B Voodoo 1/48

[pigsty]

Ah, another Monogram Century Series fighter, another bundle of lovely detail and fit that could be charitably described as approximate ... so it's time for another thread full of silly questions.

First one: does this thing need nose weight? The instructions are silent and the maingear is a fair way back, but I'm not too sure about all that empennage. And, assuming Two Mikes release their promised afterburners before I get to the end, would that make a difference?

[Giorgio N]

It's been a long time since I built mine, but I don't think I used any weight.

The afterburner cans are very nice in the kit, although IIRC they are a multipart affair and fit wasn't probably great as I can see a couple of seams on my model. You can always attach them in place and replace them with the resin ones when these become available..

What I remember is how I enjoied this kit when I built it: terrible fit but really something that for its days set new standards for details.

[silverkite211]

Built straight out of the box there's no need for placing any weight in the nose, just like it's younger sibling the F-4. As for whether aftermarket resin afterburners would alter that equation I can't say with certainly, I wouldn't think so, although that might depend on the weight of the resin pieces.

[pigsty]

Well, one advantage of a separate nose section is that you can assemble the whole thing and try it out before taking the plunge, so I shall do that. Thank you both.

[silverkite211]

It's been some time since I built the kit, however what I remember being the most aggravating part of the build was the rotating missile pallet, it was a pretty loose fit, everything else worked out, some of it with a little dryfitting and adjusting, but not bad. I'd still say my Classic Airframes Wyvern was much more work to assemble.

[Giorgio N]

It's been some time since I built the kit, however what I remember being the most aggravating part of the build was the rotating missile pallet, it was a pretty loose fit, everything else worked out, some of it with a little dryfitting and adjusting, but not bad. I'd still say my Classic Airframes Wyvern was much more work to assemble.

Same here, the voodoo went together pretty well, much better than the same company's F-106. Must say however that I had bought the kit shortly after it was first issued, not sure the moulds are still in perfect shape as they were back then...

[pigsty]

Must say however that I had bought the kit shortly after it was first issued, not sure the moulds are still in perfect shape as they were back then...

Mine is in the category of "it wasn't old when I bought it it", but there's still a bit of flash and some embarrassing sink marks.

Speaking of the missile pallet reminds me of something else. It did remain flush with the surface at all times, didn't it? The kit includes a well for it that's deeper than it seems to need, but I'm fairly sure the pallet never retracted into the airframe. (This won't help me build the thing - just curious, as the only cutaway drawing I have is for the F-101C.)

[Alex Gordon]

G'day Sean,

The missile pallet rotated as far as I'm aware.so that either the Falcon or Genie missiles could be used as required.The bay is deep enough to accomodate the rotation.

I don't know if Canada had the use of Genie missiles but they did have Falcon.

Which squadron are you planning on representing?

[pigsty]

Which squadron are you planning on representing?

Whichever one has the colours that appeal to me most come decalling time! I have the Belcher Bits every-Voodoo-in-a-bag decal set so the world is my lobster. The only condition is that it will be in the final Voodoo grey

"C A N A D A" scheme with the red-and-white arrow along the side. It's the sort of classic look that can't be beaten.

Edited October 5, 2011 by pigsty

[dambuster]

Whichever one has the colours that appeal to me most come decalling time! I have the Belcher Bits every-Voodoo-in-a-bag decal set so the world is my lobster. The only condition is that it will be in the final Voodoo grey "C A N A D A" scheme with the red-and-white arrow along the side. It's the sort of classic look that can't be beaten.

Like this:

I am sure I did put some nose weights in - note that I am still waiting for Two Mikes resin exhausts.........

Peter

[Silver Fox]

I do love the Canadian Voodoo, not sure if it is the shape, the colour or what but it just looks right.

[pigsty]

Like this:

With luck, yes. I see yours has a silver ring round the base of the radome. Was that only the Canadian finish?

I am sure I did put some nose weights in - note that I am still waiting for Two Mikes resin exhausts.........

Oh dear. Oh well, at my rate of progress they have about six months still to complete them.

Edited October 5, 2011 by pigsty

[dambuster]

With luck, yes. I see yours has a silver ring round the base of the radome. Was that only the Canadian finish?

From what I can tell from photos it wasn't applied to the grey USAF F-101Bs.

Peter

[Giorgio N]

G'day Sean,

The missile pallet rotated as far as I'm aware.so that either the Falcon or Genie missiles could be used as required.The bay is deep enough to accomodate the rotation.

I don't know if Canada had the use of Genie missiles but they did have Falcon.

Which squadron are you planning on representing?

Originally Canadian Voodoos did not have Genie capability, but this was added later in their life. So I think grey Voodos would have had this capability. Sure some of our canadian friends will know more about when the Genie was introduced (1965 IIRC but could be wrong). Pictures of CF-101s with the Genie rocket are rare but there are a few around, including one of a Genie being fired from a 425 Sqn aircraft

A cool feature of the kit is it allows the rotating pallet to be set at 90°, showing both sides at the same time. This was not uncommon for parked planes and it's the same I did on my model as it allows both types of missiles to be seen (although pictures of parked planes in this configuration have no missile).

A baggage pod could also be attached to the Genie side of the rotating pallet and this can be seen in a few pictures of Canadian aircrafts. And of course the planes used for ECM duties carried a pod on the same station.

All canadian planes had the natural metal ring right behind the radome. I've never seen a USAF one showing it.

Edited October 5, 2011 by Giorgio N

[silverkite211]

I've picked up a little knowledge about Voodoos in this thread.

I built mine as the Texas ANG machine that was one of the TANG aircraft at William Tell '76, the Genie had been out of the inventory for a long time by then, so I used the AIM-4 Falcons and glued the pallet in that position.

I built the Monogram F-102, when it first came out, I sort of wish now that I had built it with the missile bay doors open, that single piece for the closed doors was a hassle to get glued up straight. I will say, though, that the kit decals Monogram supplied with the kit went on great. I have a F-106 to build someday, too.

[Julien]

As I recall I did not use any nose weight, I snapped the pin for the rotating pallets so used the Falcons which were appropriate for the ANG bird anyway.

I dont think the exhausts are to bad, after all the real ones have a seam down them.

Julien

[Av8fan]

I hope that these help:

Linky 1

Link 2 Flickr

Link 3 how to

I only ever got to see them once at the Toronto Intl airshow.

I think that it may have been the last year for them? Man what a noise. they really seemed to beat up the lake shore. Well, they did to my eyes/ears.

[Mike DeTorrice]

I built Monogram's 1/48 F-101B a number of years back and I side-stepped the nose weight issue completely ...... by building it in wheels-up/flying condition and with the Falcons visible on the pallet ! Naturally, I had to display it with a suspended arrangement through the J-57's.

I can say that if you place the wheels up F-101B (with twin drop tanks installed) on a flat surface, the model will lean back onto the afterburners. But perhaps the weight of the nose gear assembly and the position of the main gear will equal everything out without using a weight.

My Voodoo II was done in an air-defense blue color scheme with a bit of weathering.

Photo Series 10-5-11-II 003mod5XCZ by mikedetorrice, on Flickr

F-101 Photo Series 3-2-11 006mod3XCZ by mikedetorrice, on Flickr

F-101 Photo Series 3-2-11 003 mod2XCZ by mikedetorrice, on Flickr

Mike

[pigsty]

I dont think the exhausts are to bad, after all the real ones have a seam down them.

Actually that seam's not a problem (except that the longitudinal discontinuity doesn't appear on the kit). The problem is the panel lines around the cans. I'd love to retain them, but with fit being as dreadful as it is, I suspect I'll have to sand them all away as I clean up the joint. I've just had to do that with the tanks.

I can say that if you place the wheels up F-101B (with twin drop tanks installed) on a flat surface, the model will lean back onto the afterburners. But perhaps the weight of the nose gear assembly and the position of the main gear will equal everything out without using a weight.

I'm sure it will. The tanks are well forward of the maingear so the pivot point will move a long way back with the gear down.

[Don McIntyre]

And just for added inspiration (a Maine ANG example):

From a recruiting brochure.

[Moofles]

Some great pictures in this thread.

[Julien]

Actually that seam's not a problem (except that the longitudinal discontinuity doesn't appear on the kit). The problem is the panel lines around the cans. I'd love to retain them, but with fit being as dreadful as it is, I suspect I'll have to sand them all away as I clean up the joint. I've just had to do that with the tanks.

The fit on mine was not bad, I just glued them together and painted them.

Julien

[pigsty]

Some great pictures in this thread.

You could take a picture of an F-101 with the lens cap on and it would still come out looking wonderful.

[silverkite211]

Ok, my turn for a picture, this is my Voodoo as it currently sits-well is suspended-at the moment.

[andym]

One thing I recall about the kit is the grilles on the fuselage side above the engines are the same on the kit but are actually differently shaped on the real aircaft. See:

http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/howard...00_06_of_45.jpg

and

http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/howard...00_45_of_45.jpg

for what I mean.

HTH

Andy