Homebee Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) Despite the recent release of the Italeri's Sunderland Mk.I (review: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=234927542), the Special Hobby Short Sunderland Mk.V project seems going on. Some CAD drawings are proposed in ModelForum: http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=97&p=1362198#p1362198 Future kit reference is SH72162. Wait and see. V.P. Edited March 29, 2022 by Homebee 1
LDSModeller Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) Wow, thanks for posting. I know that they are only CAD drawings and subject to change (for the better hopefully) Special Hobby R & D Team hopefully will take note of the following Few things, not right: Bunks in the bomb bay? Bombs should be 250 lb depth charges The rear deck actually doesn't look like that with the beam positions. Flight deck looks good But, Why do these manufacturers insit on thinking that the position behind Second Pilot (Starboard) has curtains and has door way appearance?? The rear of the radio postion does not have a solid appearance. Why do they have a drawing of a Vickers gas Operated K gun and mount, by the time the Mk V came along bow turret boasted twin .303s. On the plus side the lower deck looks really good - Well done Special Hobby, even has the bulkhead by stairwell and the step down to lower deck Be interested to see what else they come with. Look forward to more Regards Alan Edited November 3, 2012 by LDSModeller 2
Ken Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 Have you thought that the inclusion of the early turret might indicate 2 versions in the offing ? An early III a.k.a. Airfix and a V ? Ken 1
LDSModeller Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Have you thought that the inclusion of the early turret might indicate 2 versions in the offing ? An early III a.k.a. Airfix and a V ? Ken That's a possibility looking at the rear deck section that would work as the Mk III, the MkV had different rear deck section at the point where you "step up" wonder if Special hobby would include both? Early production and later production Mk III's used the same type turret (FN-11) where as the Mk IIIa and Mk V came with a type of Curran Brockhouse turret. If Special Hobby had planned a Mk III also, then there hopefully should be a set of Pegasus XVIII's included in the kit. EDIT: Did a Google traslate of the comments in the above link and as much of what came through in English, there is a suggestion of a Mk III, so we'll wait and see. Regards Alan Edited November 6, 2012 by LDSModeller
Ken Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 I think the main clue is in the 2 types of nose turret being shown although I doubt if it is a Brockhouse turret as that was developed for the Seaford (Sunderland IV) As I said in my previous reply, I think we could be looking at the III, a IIIA and V which will take us from the mid-War period right up to the end of its service life. Can you imagine the various combinations of national markings ? Exchange of views is always good Ken
LDSModeller Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) I think the main clue is in the 2 types of nose turret being shown although I doubt if it is a Brockhouse turret as that was developed for the Seaford (Sunderland IV) As I said in my previous reply, I think we could be looking at the III, a IIIA and V which will take us from the mid-War period right up to the end of its service life. Can you imagine the various combinations of national markings ? Exchange of views is always good Ken Yes, exchange of views is always good. I am aware that a Curran Brockhouse turret was used for the Seaford (actually only Curran Brockhouse Mk I), which is why I said "type", if you compare the photo link and photo of the real Mk V turret, they look similar. Curran Brockhouse style http://forum.axishis...le.php?id=15034 Mk V turret If Special Hobby execute a model to render either Mk III, Mk IIIa or Mk V all in one box or even as sepearte models, I think a lot of modellers will be happy As for markings, there's no doubt in my mind what I will build a few Mk V's (or MR5) as. If Special Hobby only provide RAF or French ( including post war) then that's not a problem, Ventura make a great set of RNZAF decals. Regards Alan Edited November 6, 2012 by LDSModeller
Homebee Posted December 3, 2013 Author Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Fuselage sprue Source: http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=97&p=1533589#p1533589 V.P. Edited December 14, 2016 by Homebee 1
Test Graham Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 Look at the missing parts where the step and the upper gun positions would be. Presumably this is precisely the same tooling as in the Italeri Mk.I, as this wouldn't be needed without being compatible with the early marks..
Heraldcoupe Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 Look at the missing parts where the step and the upper gun positions would be. Presumably this is precisely the same tooling as in the Italeri Mk.I, as this wouldn't be needed without being compatible with the early marks.. I don't have the Italeri kit, but online images of the sprues show nothing in common with these SH mouldings. Cheers, Bill.
Heraldcoupe Posted December 3, 2013 Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Double post - oops! Edited December 3, 2013 by Heraldcoupe
Homebee Posted June 29, 2015 Author Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) Another sprue. Source: http://www.mpmkits.net/2015/06/sh72162-short-sunderland-172-druhy.html V.P. Edited December 14, 2016 by Homebee 1
Homebee Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Now announced as "coming soon". Source: https://www.facebook.com/specialhobby/posts/924011814360350 V.P. Edited December 14, 2016 by Homebee 1
Homebee Posted December 14, 2016 Author Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Now announced for 2017... Moulds pics: http://www.specialhobby.net/2016/12/pripravovane-modely-aneb-co-se-ve.html V.P. Edited December 14, 2016 by Homebee 8
rholland Posted December 15, 2016 Posted December 15, 2016 I hope this does actually happen. I have an enduring memory of watching from the school bus as an RNZAF MR5 took off from Evans Bay, Wellington NZ (yes I am very old) - it seemed to take forever. Richard in NZ 5
Homebee Posted February 27, 2017 Author Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) In progress Source: http://www.specialhobby.net/2017/02/sh72162-short-sunderland-mkv-zkusebni.html Quote Short Sunderland Mk.V in 1/72 (SH72162) – new galvanic mould fuselage testshots In early December last year, we showed the 1/72 Short Sunderland galvanic mould shells here (as well as the same moulds for our 1/48 Siebel Si 204 / Aero C-3 kit). Not even three months have passed and we are able to showcase the very first testshot of the 1/72 Sunderland fuselage parts. As it is only a testshot, we are going to tune up the moulds further, polish them etc... V.P Edited February 27, 2017 by Homebee 10
Mancunian airman Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 We had ONE Sunderland kit for years and I mean, Years. Seems with the release of the iTALERIA kit we have a new kid on the block and now . . . . Is this as accurate as the real thing ?? It is a good thing when we have manufacturers producing such aircraft, there must be a market for it
172flogger Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Sunderland project and finished master was revealed in 2010, two years before Italeri release: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/49885-172-short-sunderland-by-special-hobby/
F4u Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Wouldn't mind one of these hopefully not much longer. Guy
woody37 Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 The main challenge I see with this if done in the normal SH way is fitting the port hole windows. Can anyone confirm if there is a lip to the windows to help secure them better or are they just push fit that with clumbsy fingers like mine will result in them pushing through. that aside, it looks like a great kit.
DIO Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 3 hours ago, woody37 said: The main challenge I see with this if done in the normal SH way is fitting the port hole windows. Can anyone confirm if there is a lip to the windows to help secure them better or are they just push fit that with clumbsy fingers like mine will result in them pushing through. that aside, it looks like a great kit. Just don't use the windows! Use Micro Kristal Klear white glue instead. Have a look here
LDSModeller Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 On 28/02/2017 at 5:48 AM, Mancunian airman said: Is this as accurate as the real thing ?? It is a good thing when we have manufacturers producing such aircraft, there must be a market for it The kit has the right number of Portholes in the forward lower section (9 Port & 10 Starboard). I'm guessing the third porthole Starboard side upper and rear (both sides) is for a Mk I/II Without measuring the Porthole diameter, hard to tell if the smaller ones are 4.2mm (1/72) and the larger are 4.86mm (1/72) for opening portholes, and not 5.2mm (1/72) which is the actual diameter of the whole porthole outer. If building a Mk V/MR5 the forward and rear main hatches/doors should have cuts outs in the doors with perspex inserts for crash axe and fire extinguisher as in this photo from my collection. Close up of Crash Axe section clear perspex The forward section of the Radio station bulkhead is pretty accurate........ I note the fuselage sides have the mooring bollards moulded as indented (which is correct), but note, some Mk V/MR5's actually had retractable types (not a major). Until I get my hands on one, hard to say about the rest, but looks pretty good thus far looking at the photos. Regards Alan 4
woody37 Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 On 01/03/2017 at 0:57 AM, DIO said: Just don't use the windows! Use Micro Kristal Klear white glue instead. Have a look here They are rather large windows to fill with Klear but may be a good option. I've had issues getting a nice flat look in the past though as it tends to be thicker around the edges and thinner in the middle when dried
Homebee Posted March 17, 2017 Author Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Another test sprue. Source: http://www.specialhobby.net/2017/03/sh72162-sunderland-172-testovaci.html Quote 1/72 Sunderland (SH72162) – engine cowling frame test shot The moulding tool with the Sunderland engine cowlings, wing tip floats and other smaller items has almost been finished and a set of test shots have been run showing only few trouble points requiring our toolmakers´attention. We showcased this sprue along with the fuselage shots during last weekend model contest in Prague. V.P. Edited March 21, 2017 by Homebee 3
LDSModeller Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Sigh...... Modellers are going to have to redo the frontal profile of the float Real thing Special Hobby offering Depend on how accurate you want your model???? Regards Alan
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