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  1. A positive thought from me; Mods, has the forum software been amended to make linking to Flickr easier? I uploaded some pics yesterday, and in the editing screen the links I had pasted there from Flickr immediately changed themselves into pictures. There was also a black bar appeared which told me that the links had been processed and asked if I was happy with this? All new (and welcome) to me. Made my life easier, so thanks SD
  2. Two more pictures of Black 7. I have to say looking at the tones in these B&W photos that I could be convinced that this is Blue or Red 7 rather than Black? The two-tone spinner visible in the lower picture suggests that this is the same aircraft as the 'Black 7' on p1 of this thread posted by MDriskill SD Source: Luftwaffe Warbirds Photo Album Vol4 (1993) Tank Magazine Special Issue Delta Publishing Toyko Japan. Images posted for the purposes of research.
  3. I would be very happy if I could achieve an overall painted look like yours. Your pre shading has worked very well, especially on the upper surfaces here. SD
  4. Brilliant Laurent! Excellent additional information and a great pic too! I presume that that is Black 15 being salvaged? Thanks! Just realised that I can't spell Müncheberg! Sorry Good post and thanks again SD
  5. Yes Antti, I agree. Hitchcock and Merrick were well ahead of their time, both in terms of the large, accurate chips provided but also in their recognition that there were wide variations in greys such as 76 and also that some other colours used were not yet fully understood or categorised. Subsequent books (and some authors) became rather dogmatic in their views and lost this capacity to remain open to new ideas and information. SD
  6. Lovely pictures Antonio. Very clear with good colour balance and lighting. I suspect the magenta colouring is Wood Sealer as below (this page is also from the Monogram Painting Guide) rather than glue. According to Hitchcock & Merrick this dark red primer was applied to wooden and metal surfaces. Perhaps the light green primer is RLM99 Yellow-Green? Hope this helps SD Images posted for the purposes of research Source: Merrick K and Hitchcock T (1980) The Official Monogram Painting Guide to German Aircraft 1935-1945 Boylston Mass. Monogram Aviation Publications
  7. The Monogram Painting Guide is now 35+ years old. While some of the factual information within the Guide has been superceded by subsequent research (Late War Greens for example), in my view the colour chips, camouflage plans and photos within are amongst the very best available for those of us with an interest in Luftwaffe colours. It's well worth having a copy of this SD
  8. And the answer would seem to be that this marking was used operationally. Checking Smith & Creek's 3 Volume work on the Fw190, there on p868 of Vol 3 is your 'Black 15'. The detailed caption accompanying the pictures identifies the pilot as Heinz Schmidt, and details the (very brief) life of this airframe. It was ferried to III/JG54 on February 17th 1945, and used operationally on March 11th 1945 by Schmidt for the first time (for him or the aircraft? - not sure from the caption). The following day the airframe was badly damaged by Russian AA fire during a ground attack mission resulting in the undercarriage retraction mechanism being unusable, with the consequences we see in the pictures. Location of the crashlanding is given as Mucheberg/Eggersdorf. A further marking detail that has not yet been mentioned is that this aircraft carried a white III on the rudder below the stripe. (Their rendition of the pictures is rather clearer than others I have seen). Looking again at Black 15 above, this III marking appears as a white patch on the rudder. The meaning of this III marking is not known. The authors assert that, while its tempting to link the III marking with III Gruppe, having checked with Ken Merrick, they do not believe this is the case. Finally they describe how another Fw190 was also involved in a forced landing that day, it carried the white tail stripe, but not the III marking. I would add that white rudder numbers were used by the Luftwaffe on aircraft being ferried to their units, and that other examples exist of these numbers being still present when the aircraft was used (and shot down) operationally. Fw190D-9 <II + flown by Werner Hohenberg of JG2 shot down during Bodenplatte carried the remnants of a white ferry number on the rudder. So perhaps here we are seeing a white 111? Source: Smith JR and Creek E (2013) 'Focke Wulf 190 Volume Three 1944-1945' Classic Publications Hersham
  9. Yellow 11 for me as I prefer a bit of colour on my models! . I'm pretty sure this is an A8 version as other pictures taken at Flensburg show the fronts of what I think is this group of 190s. Two of the group have 14 bladed cooling fans (so are A9s) but the rest have the usual 12 blades. It's not possible to identify Yellow 11 conclusively within the group picture sadly. Although you do have the rare opportunity here to do Black 15 with photographic coverage of both sides of the airframe. All three would make good models SD
  10. A slightly tongue-in-cheek reply to you Luka: The pilots revolt was earlier in January 1945 and you're right - there were serious consequences for the main participants including banishment to Italy for Lutzow and removal from post for others such as Steinhoff. Arrest warrants were issued for Galland and Steinhoff. However, and this is important, the revolt was not against Nazism, but against Goering's strategic decision making, use of resources and behaviour. Shortly before this meeting in November 1944 Goering had accused Walter Dahl in front of his officers of cowardice during a visit to his Gruppe. Remember too that Trautloft left JG54 in July 1943 to become Jagdflieger Inspizient Ost. But, more seriously, I would ask that we put this idea of political demonstration to one side. We have no evidence for this - it must remain as speculation. Perhaps we are viewing events of 75 years ago through today's eyes that are used to expressions of disagreement and protest. Germany in 1945 was different. The evidence, such as we have, is that the markings were real and used across Staffeln within III/JG54. It is rather strange that the stripe runs across the Hakenkreuz but that's all we can say. Other authors (as outlined above) have wondered if the markings were formation or theatre based? SD
  11. Well I'm going to follow this for certain. Any thread that makes me laugh out loud is worth returning to! That's not to say that I don't feel your pain Ced with the Tet calamity though... (Well I did laugh, but just a bit) SD
  12. Well done John; that's a simple but very effective way to change the tailplane shape with a nod to the Pearce drawing. Looking good! SD
  13. Postscript on reading this thread again from the start: Note that other FW190s in this picture have their Hakenkreuz visible alongside this aircraft - so its definitely not post exposure picture censoring. Regarding the political statement idea, all I would say is that these markings are late 1945, so post the assassination attempt on Hitler and at exactly the same time as roving SS Kangaroo Courts were roaming Germany summarily executing any member of the armed forces felt to be deserting or disloyal. Not the ideal time for a public display of anti-Nazi feeling... SD
  14. Wonderful cockpit there Peter! Those belts are great. And the detail... Wow! SD
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