Etiennedup Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 This is going to be my next build using the Special Hobby 1/48 kit. I do however have a few questions that I hope you learned chaps could help me with. (a) I cannot find a detailed drawing of the tilt-up door that I plan to do. something with exact measurements would be most helpful. Does anybody know of such a plan/drawing. (b) Some Oxfords had a orange/brown tinted top panel in the canopy, but the ambulance photos I have are inconclusive....any ideas? Any help would be most welcome............. Cheers. Etienne. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmaas Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 There is, or has been, a photoetch conversion set in 1/72: http://www.marabudesign.com/airspeed-oxford-ambulance-p-206.html which might be of use by scaling up. And good luck with this project, as you probably know, the undersides are white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanroon Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Wow! What a thrill for those kids. Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) On 12/12/2016 at 10:26 AM, Etiennedup said: (b) Some Oxfords had a orange/brown tinted top panel in the canopy, but the ambulance photos I have are inconclusive....any ideas? Most likely trainers, I seem to remember reading trainee pilots wore tinted goggles (blue?) and the effect was similar to flying at night. The instructor wore no goggles and could see clearly. So unlikely to be on ambulance aircraft. I think there were removable orange/yellow panels for the side windows and windscreen. Edited December 13, 2016 by rossm Added details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, rossm said: Most likely trainers, I seem to remember reading trainee pilots wore tinted goggles (blue?) and the effect was similar to flying at night. The instructor wore no goggles and could see clearly. So unlikely to be on ambulance aircraft. I think there were removable orange/yellow panels for the side windows and windscreen. Known as "Two Stage Amber". The cockpit windows had yellow screens fitted inside,the aircrew wore blue tinted goggles to simulate flying in bright moonlight during the day time,so an early form of synthetic night flying. According to Guy Gibson in Enemy Coast Ahead,617 used it in the run-up to and practice for the Dams raids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 12 hours ago, Vanroon said: Wow! What a thrill for those kids. Grant Why are they all running away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 On 13/12/2016 at 6:02 PM, Eric Mc said: Why are they all running away? The one with the glasses on has let off a right old `whizzbanger' inside the fuselage! Don`t know whether you`ve seen this photo of the undersides Ettienne? The upper window panels look to be clear to me. The undersides look to be white to me, but I`m not sure and they could be yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Why would it be white? Yellow is the standard colour.for second-line aircraft. Edited December 15, 2016 by Work In Progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 White is the official underside colour for Ambulance aircraft, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etiennedup Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the input so far gentlemen............ The fact that tinted canopies were used in training aircraft makes perfect sense so, clear it will be. Yes, Tony and others .......white undersides were used as seen here and confirmed op page 11 of ‘British Aviation Colours’ My last hurdle however is the measurements of the tip-up-door that i want to open up. I suppose in the end I’ll have to resort to my trusty mk. I eyeball. :-) Edited December 15, 2016 by Etiennedup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Didn't know about the white for ambulance aircraft, I don;t think I've ever seen the instructions for it! Seriously though is that known to be a genuine WW2 colour photo? It looks awfully colourised to me: the shadows in the folds of the uniforms make it look like a BW pic which has been manually / electronically tinted. Edited December 15, 2016 by Work In Progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 How widely the white underside was applied, other than to these Oxfords and perhaps a UK-based Rapide or two, is another matter. It doesn't seem to have been applied later in the Middle East, to the Bombays, Lodestars and Hudsons. The Dakotas used for evacuation of wounded from the continent flew in normal Transport Command colours, I believe. It would be interesting to see if any carried Red Cross markings, whether of significant size or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etiennedup Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 42 minutes ago, Work In Progress said: It looks awfully colourised to me: the shadows in the folds of the uniforms make it look like a BW pic which has been manually / electronically tinted It comes from a 1943 publication "British Women go to War "by J.B. Priestley with colour photos by P.G Hennell. Considering the age of the publication I think they did a rather good printing job. Have a look here https://propagandaphotos.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/british-women-go-to-war-by-j-g-priestley-p-g-hennell/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85sqn Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Interestingly those ladies have been issued with the coastal command style flying jackets with a fur hood. Some had yellow paint on the outside of the hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 The black undercarriage legs and hubs catch my eye but I'm not au fait with undercarriage colours for Oxfords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Well. That book is amazing and I've just found a copy to buy, so thanks for bringing it to my attention. What a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet133 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 White was also the required colour for the under surfaces of Ambulance aircraft in the RAAF colour regulations. It was used on several types used as Amulances in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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