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  1. Thanks Super Aereo OK that was the post that gave the info. To give credit where due it was apparently Piet van Schalkwyk who identified the correct colour info from a drawing on the front of a logbook and a description in the wing records. So my memory was slightly faulty (all I had as I did not know the location of the post).
  2. The Green/Yellow colours were identified when one of the SAAF researchers (I think it was Stefaan) found an original menu for a dinner during the war (likely Christmas) which had the wing badge on it in Green/Yellow colour. There was info about it on one of the Forums several years ago (but I cannot remember which one). Stefaan was the main supplier of info for the schemes used on the DK sheet.
  3. I just checked and the Forum also seems to be working now for me. Checked the posts on a message and they were OK.
  4. Yes despite the claim above, the Xtradecal sheet is not the only source for the Green/Yellow wing badge. DK did the sheet linked above years ago.
  5. A02040 was the AIrfix 1979 vintage Spit Vb kit matched with a new Vc wing that Airfix contracted Occidental Réplicas from Portugal to make. As noted above the new wing had 'problems' and the whole thing was not a very good idea. Only useful these days for the RAAF scheme decals.
  6. Galland thought that the Me-109F was undergunned, so he had his people create a 'one off' with wing cannon to test his theory. There were no others. There were however a couple of hundred 109Fs with under wing 20mm cannon pods ala the Me-109G on the Eastern Front (those Il-2s were difficult to bring down..) Galland also had another 109F that was given 13mm cowl guns (like the Me-109G-6) to test his theories, that one did not have the wing guns.
  7. The RS Models P-38s have no connection to the Academy ones and a search on KFS Miniatures does not bring up any mention of them even reviewing the RS releases. So until 'TheKinksFan' gives a direct link to where KFS said that I do not believe him.
  8. Buz, The 3 images showing Jowett by the nose of an airframe with a 'Roo' are https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C331256 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C331257 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C331258 C331258 is the least useful of the three, the other two show the nose art in much more detail, which shows it is not the same airframe as 'F' (reportedly) that I posted above. If that is OK-F with the cover over the cockpit it is likely FR273 in that timeframe (May 43). Code letters are known for all the airframes you listed on Doug Norrie's serial listing, but like you I do not have any images of the Port nose that I can identify to any of the airframes you listed to see if they have artwork or not. Steve
  9. Well RAAF CAC Sabres and RAN Skyhawks both carried Sidewinders and both are quite a bit older than a Strikemaster so it is not impossible. However I also think it is just a publicity shot.
  10. Canadian Goose serials were Mk. I (2), (Serial Nos. FP471, FP473), Mk. II (29), (Serial Nos. 382-397, 796-798, 917, 924-926, 939-944), for a total of 31 aircraft. So '392' would fit, something starting with '2' is not possible. I will leave it to you to decide.
  11. Hi Buz, Are you referring to this IWM image (I acquired a print from them when I was in the UK back in the 80s). Various people have claimed this is 'F'. Now it 'may' be, but it could just as easily be a 'P' or the cockpit cover may come a different airframe completely. However the 2nd image of the Starb side of FR273 does show a similar demarcation position of the lower surface colour so that lends some support to the theory, no Kangaroo but I would not really expect one to Starboard. But this is not the airframe in the Jowett images. The Kangaroos are completely different, look at the raised right hand foot on the 'Jowett' Roo, and where the demarcation line of the under surface colour runs thru the Roo, much lower on the Jowett images. There were many different Roo airframes as earlier mentioned. Steve
  12. I do not know which airframe that Jowett was photographed with as due to the angle, where we cannot see either the code or serial (hopefully Buz may know when he catches up) but it is possibly not FR242. Jowett was likely photographed with 'his' machine, but pilots flew whatever was available for a mission. FR242 Mk. III (P-40K-1-CU) OK-◊ 26/09/42-19/12/42 Flown out to 53 RSU at El Magrun. Carried the name 'Kathmay' beneath the cockpit. OK-Z 25/04/43-21/08/43 Hit by ground fire during armed recco to southern Italy. F/O. H.A.C. Jowett RAAF baled out and captured. POW Interpreting the above it means that it was with 450 Sqn in 1942 as OK-Diamond (being one of F/Lt Frank Schaaf's airframes). The image I attached of it below shows it not carrying a Kangaroo then. On 19-12-42 it went back to 53 RSU for some sort of work on it (Buz 'may' have the details). It came back to 450 on 25/4/43 not long before the AWM images were apparently taken when it was coded OK-Z and stayed that way till it's loss with Jowett on 21/8/43. Did it have the 'Roo' at that stage, I do not know. Possibly it is the same machine but possibly not. Sword included decals for OK-<> in their 1/72 scale kit SW72064. Note on the decals they give the serial as RF242, thus you have to cut them apart and re-arrange as FR242. Do not miss the name 'Kathmay' below the cockpit either. The decals appear to a lot more accurate then their sideview on the back of the box which has a number of 'problems' (letter too small etc). Steve Mackenzie
  13. I have counted at least 12 airframes carrying the 'Roo' artwork from 450 Sqn by carefully comparing details. The majority are in Temperate scheme (although there are a few odd ones in the earlier Desert colours). Doug Norrie's list (he is the 450 Sqn Historian, well known to 'Buz' and myself) confirms Tim Forneau's 'Pete' as being FR811 OK-V. If you look closely at the AWM image you can see the 'V' under the lower lip of the nose intake. Bombs could be either Brit or US manufacture (both were used at times). Bomb loads on the Mk.IIIs were as given by 'Buz'. 1000 lb bombs were first carried by the Kittyhawk Mk.IIa (P-40L) airframes but they could only lift one (on the centreline rack with nothing on the wing racks). No P-40 variant could carry 1000 lb bombs on wing racks (those were limited to 500 lbs) but FX serialled MkIV airframes could carry 2000 lbs in total (1000 lb centreline and 500 lb under each wing). The FT serialled Mk.IVs appear to have been limited to 1500 lbs in total (I assume an earlier variant of the engine with a bit less power. The image of FR853 OK-D follows. One very important point to note is that the 'Roos' are a very light colour (either White or a very light Grey on all examples that have been seen). If your decals have them in Brown as is common, get better decals, as many artists (decals and profiles) are plagarising a profile from the 1960s which had them as Brown (too lazy to bother interpreting photos themselves). Steve Mackenzie
  14. Keep in mind that your sources listed are basically all CASUALTIES. The majority of crashes were likely not involving a casualty thus not included in those figures.
  15. @WLJayne I was the person who supplied the info for the DK Decals of this scheme. The 'Rabbit' (actually more a 'Hare') was on both sides per attached. I have no proof that the flag was on both sides as the door is open on both images I have of the Port side but it likely was. These were part of an extensive article that I did on 457 Sqn Spitfires in the UK in the IPMS (NSW) publication 'in miniature' issues 23/3 and 23/4 (available from ipmsnsw.com in the magazine link) back in about 2009. Steve Mackenzie
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