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  1. There is a photo of CA-G in that scheme on this page 'file:///G:/Pictures/SAAF/Cecil%20Golding%205,7,1%20and%203%20Sqns%20SAAF/Cecil%20Golding%20photographs%203.htm' scroll down to photo no 327 to see it. Steve Mackenzie
  2. No short tail K models with the RAAF in the Pacific. They went from P-40E & E-1 models to long tail K models.
  3. BS227 was coded as FU-? immediately it was received by 453 Sqn in April 1943. It was the personal airframe of Don Andrews who used the ? as his code on at least six airframes It was later replaced in May as FU-? by MA229 and BS227 was recoded as FU-U. However I have not seen photos of it as FU-U as given in the decal sheet.
  4. Beautiful work. Yes the Academy makes into a very nice model, much more believable wheel wells than the over shallow ones on the Hasegawa kits.
  5. A couple of bits of info: HPM - these will ship from Singapore not OZ as where they are based now (and for the last decade). Would be reasonable but I did not check. Aviation Megastore - Shipping is horrendous as they will only use people like DHL etc. I put a set in checkout. it was 10.7 Euros for the cowls plus 38.54 Euros for shipping to Australia, almost 4 times as much as the goods themself.
  6. The A-4 used a different engine to the earlier versions giving it a different profile so to do it correctly there would have to be a new fuselage. The fuselage including cowling is all moulded together, to their credit it would thus appear that AZ have done the correct changes and not just whacked A-4 markings onto the earlier kit (as is often done).
  7. That was an error by Aussie Decals (a misinterpreation of the photo). The airframes carrying that artwork were all coded OK-D. A later printing of the Aussie decals sheet corrected it to OK-D after I supplied the info but there were still errors in the camouflage pattern etc. The DK Decals are much superior to that old Aussie sheet.
  8. Now that we know that RCAF airframes are not really relevant to the N.Africa and Italy ones, being repaints in many cases (as were some that had repainting in RAAF service) we can look at some of the other examples that were brought up. A photo was posted of FX594 in DFS. This was the airframe that went to the UK to be tested (as examples of most types did). There were only 2 colour schemes approved for fighter airframes in the UK at the time, DFS and the High altitude scheme. As they were not going to try to pretend the P-40N was the later, it was repainted in DFS, another repaint not it's ex factory scheme. Myriad photos of Spitfires and other types in DFS in Italy has absolutely no bearing on how P-40s were painted. The airframes of 239 Wing etc were considered 'tactical' types and painted in a scheme most suited to the operations they flew at a relatively low level to give better concealment against the ground from above. That scheme was Temperate Land Scheme (TLS). The Spitfires of the Army co-operation (Sqns 317, 40 SAAF etc) were also mostly in TLS for the same reason. DFS was used on a very few airframes in Italy as I said earlier. Why just a few machines were painted like this I have no idea but it seems to be a late war thing. The example that you posted (ND-S FX585 from 11 SAAF) is one that we were already aware of and there is little doubt that this is DFS. Another example is one of Jack Doyle's airframes from 450 Sqn (OK-L FT859) which is on the DK Decals sheet, photos attached We only know of 2-3 others, against 100s of photos of P-40s in TLS and older types in Desert Scheme. Steve Mackenzie
  9. Tony, Don't despair, I was fully intending to reply but have just got back from 36 hours in Sydney where I do not have internet connection or access to the HDs. There is no doubt that many, many Spitfires wore DFS in Italy (along with at least 4 other schemes). Hurricanes are less common in DFS as they were being phased out of service by the time things got to Italy. By then they were largely serving in 2nd line units and repainting from their previous schemes was not of high priority. Yes some RCAF P-40s got the DFS scheme, others were stripped to Natural Metal, but they were delivered AFAIK in either Temperate colours or OD/NG for P-40Ns etc. I will come to the question of DFS on P-40s in N.Africa and Italy in more detail later. Got some tennis to watch atm. Steve
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  11. I do not agree Tony. Kittyhawks wearing the Day Fighter scheme are extremely rare. Craig Busby and I have identified some that are 'believed' to be possibly DFS but you can count them on your fingers (without duplication). OK-L FT859 on DK Decals sheet 72080 is one believed to be an example. In North Africa and Sicily Kittyhawks were in desert colours (with a few strays still in Temperate colours as delivered). Once in Italy they moved to the Temperate scheme (Dark Green/ Dark Earth). The N models that had Olive Drab upper surfaces on receipt had Dark Earth added to give an approximation of the TLS. At one stage Kittyhawk IVs were having Sky Blue fuselage bands painted on at the factory but at least 95% of them had them painted out once they got into RAF etc service. There are many more examples of painted out bands than photos of airframes with them still on. OK-L FT859 referenced above is an example that still had it. The above notes refer to airframes used in the Mediterean area. The SAAF had quite a few different schemes used on P-40s for training in the Union but that is a different story.
  12. Dana, They would have been very early airframes, the ones we are talking about here were much later receipt and were OD/NG modified as Sydhuey noted.
  13. Yes Craig Buzby and Myself were involved in the preparation of these decals. The info supplied by Sydhuey is the basic situation with Kittyhawk Mk.IVs in Italy. I see you are interested in the airframes coded OK-D with the 'No Orchids' artwork. The nose panel with the artwork was transferred to each successive OK-D as they replaced each other. Below is what I wrote years ago about FX799 and photos of the airframe. 'In Mar 1945 serial FT881 was replaced as 'OK-D' by FX799, a machine with spoked wheels and no extra framing in the port forward windscreen. The panel carrying the 'No Orchids' nose art was again transferred to this new airframe. The closeup of the artwork, taken at the end of the war is very interesting. It shows that when the panel was transferred they painted in the area below the girl's figure so that the colour demarcation matched that of this machine which was one of those with a high straight line to the demarcation' The photos of FT881 and FX835 used to prepare the decals were supplied by Craig Busby. I was not going to post them here but if you contact him direct he has agreed to share them with you. Steve Mackenzie
  14. You are correct, it was based on sections of 3 and never modified.
  15. Standard unit establishment for an RAF fighter Squadron throughout the war was 18 aircraft in two flights. In the RAAF in the Pacific it was 24. But of course there were many cases where there were variations, especially being under 18 in times of heavy action.
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