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  1. One detail often overlooked - there was a yellow "U.S. ARMY" on the starboard wing top. There was also some kind of "U.S. ARMY" on the port wing bottom, but whether that was also yellow (probably) or some other color (not black) I can't say. These are very difficult to discern and I'm unable to post directly to this site.
  2. Photo Great! Looking forwrd to U.S. Army markings!
  3. I understand that the idea seems strange, and - not having been there - can't testify from my own observation. But I came by the description from a Turkish modeler who may well have have pertinent insight: "I can't be emphatic enough about this: All the sources say that these were painted a reddish dark orange on the top, and aluminum dope everywhere else. The exact color was Dupont 83-2588 "Deluxe Orange", I believe this is close to FS 13538. The dark color in the photos is absolutely not green. - Hope this helps, Kursad" I hope there might be some forum members
  4. https://www.airhistory.net/photo/201764/M-543?fbclid=IwAR2y4PCGBLH0QEjSAsev-61gQCKnGDqfGmTlsxnBsXhnkAQ722ZVf9VDk1g Although this is the later Martin 139WH-3 (long canopy and different wings) this photo gives a good idea of the blue used by Martin for the Dutch - and presumably USAAC - aircraft.
  5. Actually, there were many of them, they just didn't make it to Belgium in time. One was test flown by the Germans and found in Germany post war. The colors appear to have been darker than standard MAP colors, and the pattern was "MAP-adjacent" but not exactl;y the same. Most ended up in British service with the RAF and FAA in North Africa and Crete; one (AX815) even managed to wander as far afield as India, where it crashed in October 1943.
  6. Just a couple of odd bits.....the Belgians were evidently steering away from the monotone uppersurface camouflage. While it is true that the Hurricanes came with thir MAP camouflage, note that the Brewster 339B was ordered from the start witn a (more or less) Dark Earth/Dark Green uppersurface camouflage. It was not a direct copy of the British scheme since those weren't even in prospect when the Belgian contract was reached (and had a pattern different from the official MAP pattern). The blue rudder on Gl;adiators, I think, is an artifact of those staples of our youth, the Pro
  7. If the aircraft has letters, rather than numbers, on nose and tail, you are pretty safe using roundels on top of the wings.
  8. jimmaas

    Martin B-10

    Those are indeed Turkish. Thank you for sharing them. But the earlier claim ( which caused me to wish for a confirming photo) was that the Turks had some Martins with a continuous greenhouse, like the later model Netherlands types. All of these show the normal two canopies. And yes, the orange upper surfaces on the model is pretty, er, um....vivid!
  9. I think this has been pointed out before, but the insignia - Dora Wings instructions to the contrary - did not appear on the upper surfasce of the wings until the European war was ending. Best reference is the MMP Swedish Fighters Vol 1 book. The size of the lower wing roundel was to insure no friendly fire accidents.
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    Martin B-10

    The Turkish Martins were not similar to the Netherlands East Indies Model 139WH-3/3A (I've never understood where the designation 166 comes from). They were similar to the earlier 139WH-1/2. The WH-139WH-3/3A had the continous canopy, but also a deeper forward fuselage and most significantly a revised wing, that looks more like a DC-3 planform than the one associated with the B-10. The revised wing was needed to address change in center of gravity. By the way, the Turkish Martins were distinctive - the upper surfaces were painted in a shade of orange around FS13538 which one mod
  11. It was news to me also; I remembered that only J-42 had the cannon pods but my research for the Classic Airframes kit was quite a while ago, so I wanted to make sure, and found this in the midst of a discussion of Danish proposed fighter projects: from https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/indigenous-danish-fighter.5357 Oct. 4, 2020 from 'Orla' D.XXI J-42 did not have two 23mm. Madsen macnine guns under its wings when testing, but one 20mm. and one 23mm. cannon as the Hærens Flyvertropper wanted to test the reliability, functionality and service ability for each
  12. Just to clarify, the only Danish Fokker to carry cannon pods appears to have been an experiment with J-42. One pod carried a 20 mm cannon, one a 23 mm cannon. The 20 was found the best but none were mounted in April 1940, and were only on J-42 when it was in overall silver.
  13. From knowledge of this question with Brewsters in the FAF, the change to light blue undersurfaces ("DN Color') was not done quickly, but only when there was a depot overhaul.
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