Panzerhaubitz 2000 and T-90K

[echen]

49 minutes ago, Old pro said:

Just a quick one before you push on, the sensor mast is upside down

I'll try and correct it

[echen]

3 hours ago, Old pro said:

the big bit should be at the top,

@Old pro It is now at the top - so thanks muchly for the correction. 

The issue of the three large ERA plates each side of the drivers' compartment now arises. Two of them are adjacent to the area where the first skirt section has been torn off. I think I might just add the rearmost two on the RHS although the pic I found showing missing skirt in this area seemed to have all three still in place if I recall correctly. (I can't find the pic now).

Edited March 1, 2023 by echen

[Old pro]

21 minutes ago, echen said:

@Old pro It is now at the top - so thanks muchly for the correction. 

The issue of the three large ERA plates each side of the drivers' compartment now arises. Two of them are adjacent to the area where the first skirt section has been torn off. I think I might just add the rearmost two on the RHS although the pic I found showing missing skirt in this area seemed to have all three still in place if I recall correctly. (I can't find the pic now).

I would just go with what you find aesthetically pleasing, particularly if doing a captured vehicle, it could be that they stuck one there without replacing the side skirts, if anyone says anything ask them to prove you wrong!😂😂 unless it’s a brand new vehicle it seems anything goes in this conflict🤷🏻‍♂️

[echen]

A little progress on the Pz H.

 Managed to get the rear panel on upside down! 

It wasn't until I realised that the storage box on the right hand rear door was actually on the left that I picked up on it and carried out an urgent repair. Fortunately the Mr Cement had not set. (Phew!)

Edited March 2, 2023 by echen

[echen]

Got the first coat of Humbrol 86 Light Olive on the lower hull and running gear.

 

Some rough detail painting on the T-90, the second coat of Humbrol 117 and Humbrol 29 Dark Earth as a basecoat on the outer surface of the tracks.

The turret MG lost its barrel so I cut it from the bracket and left the rest of the gun off.

However I found a pic of a T-90 with the MG in place but a cover over the barrel. Methinks I might try a scratch covered barrel and refit the gun.

 

[Old pro]

On 05/04/2023 at 13:24, echen said:

Got the first coat of Humbrol 86 Light Olive on the lower hull and running gear.

 

Some rough detail painting on the T-90, the second coat of Humbrol 117 and Humbrol 29 Dark Earth as a basecoat on the outer surface of the tracks.

The turret MG lost its barrel so I cut it from the bracket and left the rest of the gun off.

However I found a pic of a T-90 with the MG in place but a cover over the barrel. Methinks I might try a scratch covered barrel and refit the gun.

 

Trying to depict a covered MG would be better as there is a fixed cradle on the MG mount,

you seem to be missing the exhaust?

[echen]

15 minutes ago, Old pro said:

you seem to be missing the exhaust?

Not painted yet. Debating whether to open the end before fitting.

[Old pro]

5 hours ago, echen said:

Not painted yet. Debating whether to open the end before fitting.

Explains it, was going to say I have loads spare if you needed one.

[echen]

23 minutes ago, Old pro said:

I have loads spare if you needed one.

Thanks @Old pro. Hopefully I won't demolish the supplied part.

Looking at your T-90 photo it struck me that there are large areas of the turret top without ERA. Surely, with Javelins flying about it would make sense to cover the whole turret?

Edited April 7, 2023 by echen

[Mippie]

Looking good there @echen ! The Pzhb 2000 is a lovely machine.

Ref the ERA for protection against Javelins, I think Javs are a tandem warhead so ERA wouldn't help as they are designed to defeat ERA I believe.

[Old pro]

17 hours ago, echen said:

Thanks @Old pro. Hopefully I won't demolish the supplied part.

Looking at your T-90 photo it struck me that there are large areas of the turret top without ERA. Surely, with Javelins flying about it would make sense to cover the whole turret?

Not really, the forward areas without ERA, are armoured blocks anyway, the crew area is covered by ERA, no point in putting it where it doesn’t need to be.

the red area is laminated armour whilst the crew occupies the yellow area only (along with the gun breech and auto loader etc)

[echen]

1 minute ago, Old pro said:

Not really, the forward areas without ERA, are armoured blocks anyway, the crew area is covered by ERA, no point in putting it where it doesn’t need to be.

That really clarifies things and is most helpful.

[echen]

Started the cam.

 

 

 

 

Looks a bit ropey so far but it is the first coat of a light colour (Revell Africa Brown Rev17) on a darker colour (Humbrol US Light Green 117)- at least, that's what I tell myself. AND I missed the bands round the gun barrel.

I got the large ERA side panels and the exhaust painted and fitted. Loads more to do but at least a little step forward........

Edited June 3, 2023 by echen

[echen]

Tracks base painted and cam almost complete.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 8, 2023 by echen

[Milan Mynar]

Nice camo of the T-90 .

[echen]

11 minutes ago, Milan Mynar said:

Nice camo of the T-90 .

@Milan Mynar Thanks mate. Not quite finished yet. There's some black edging to be added to some of the sandy brown patches - and then some mud and weathering.

[echen]

Progress with the camo

 

 

And with her older sister

 

Detail painting, pin wash and weathering yet to be addressed.

Still undecided on Ukrainian national markings. National Flag colours or white cross?

 

 

[echen]

Decisions, decisions! Can't make up my mind.

OR

The earlier images of "acquired " equipment seem to me to have borne the gold and blue of the Ukrainian flag. More recently the white cross has featured. As I'm building to @Bertie McBoatface's impressionist method I guess it comes down to what looks best in the paint.

And I still can't decide........................

 

[Stef N.]

I prefer the blue and yellow. It just gives it that extra lift. 👍

[echen]

Thanks for the likes, gents. Thanks too to @Stef N. for the view on the choice. White cross is easier to paint but the flag would tie in nicely with the T80BV.

Maybe I should have another go at home-made decals.

[Bertie McBoatface]

38 minutes ago, echen said:

Maybe I should have another go at home-made decals.

 

Or maybe you could paint it on with a drip or two? Or do an oil paint 'smear' where the blue and yellow paints have run down in the rain? Perhaps they used indoor house paints in their hurry? 

[echen]

@Bertie McBoatface A bit like this?

[Bullbasket]

@echen, if you're prepared to fabricate fuel lines on a T-90 in 1/72nd scale, then a hand painted blue and yellow flag should be no bother.

 

John.

[echen]

36 minutes ago, Bullbasket said:

fabricate fuel lines on a T-90 in 1/72nd scale

Found some close-ups of a 1:1 T90. It does not appear to have Tiran type fuel lines.

S'pose I'll just have to find a 1/72 Tiran..........................