Piotr Mikolajski Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Spitfire31 said: The S 29C played a crucial role in Sweden's low-level mapping of Warsaw Pact harbours and missile bases in top secret photo ops in the early autumn of 1958. This means I have to add it to my wish list in 1/72 BTW, Maestro Models released recon nose conversion in 1/72 for Tarangus kit (unfortunately without info about wings), I guess they can make it on 1/32 too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire31 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: This means I have to add it to my wish list in 1/72 Hi! I just uploaded a Youtube video that I recently made for the F11 Museum, about the top secret low-level photo raids with the S 29C Tunnan in the early autumn of 1958: Enjoy! Kind regards, Joachim 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Spitfire31 said: I just uploaded a Youtube video that I recently made for the F11 Museum, about the top secret low-level photo raids with the S 29C Tunnan in the early autumn of 1958 Excellent! Thanks a lot! Funny thing - in Poland I didn't come across any information about border violations of this kind. There was talk of RAF Canberras photographing the entire coastline, which even Soviet MiG-19s were unable to intercept, but not a word about low-level overflights. On the other hand, it is better not to mention it, because it would also be necessary to explain why such overflights occurred and what the air defence was doing at the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Spitfire31 said: Hi! I just uploaded a Youtube video that I recently made for the F11 Museum, about the top secret low-level photo raids with the S 29C Tunnan in the early autumn of 1958: Enjoy! Kind regards, Joachim Wow! Thanks! What capability stuck in these Barrels, incredible. Wonder what other secrets are still out there to be revealed.... There are no photos around of these repainted J29Cs, no I guess? Austria also had recce J29F.. but a different one side only camera set afaik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire31 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, exdraken said: There are no photos around of these repainted J29Cs, no I guess? That's a good guess! 😉 The S 29C:s involved basically had the period livery, anodised aluminium overall, except for fin/rudder and wingtips that were painted olive drab. The special markings drawing, that figures briefly in the video, is based on the memories of one of the pilots. Black bands (similar to some exercise markings) covered the standard Swedish national insignia on the fuselage, and on the lower and upper wing surfaces, likewise the griphon badge (symbol of the province of Sörmland) on both sides below the cockpit. The black Wing number (11) on the aft fuselage, behind the three crowns national roundel, was just painted out with grey paint and the yellow fin letter painted out either with black or, perhaps, with the same olive drab colour as the rest of the fin and the rudder. Strictly speaking, the standard livery should also have olive drab wing tips, same colour as the fin. I left them out in order to avoid confusion with the black bands on the wings, but on a model the wing tips should be olive drab. The eight S 29:s taking part in the operation were fully updated with SKa 16 (Vinten F95) camera windows on either side below the cockpit, a black, square radar rear warning antenna at the bottom of the fin trailing edge, and the vertical PN-50 navigation radar reflector in the nose air intake ring. Kind regards, Joachim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Spitfire31 said: The eight S 29:s taking part in the operation were fully updated with SKa 16 (Vinten F95) camera windows on either side below the cockpit, a black, square radar rear warning antenna at the bottom of the fin trailing edge, and the vertical PN-50 navigation radar reflector in the nose air intake ring. Tarangus and other manufacturers could really make separate box with all that stuff. Or, at least, make proper fuselage and wings in one box, I can buy resin conversion myself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flarpen Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Spitfire31 said: The eight S 29:s taking part in the operation were fully updated with SKa 16 (Vinten F95) camera windows on either side below the cockpit, a black, square radar rear warning antenna at the bottom of the fin trailing edge, and the vertical PN-50 navigation radar reflector in the nose air intake ring. Kind regards, Joachim Do you know any individual serial numbers on the aircraft taking part in this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire31 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, flarpen said: Do you know any individual serial numbers on the aircraft taking part in this? Not currently, at least. There is virtually no documentation of the operation, which lasted for a week and was based on F 17 at Ronneby (the wartime assigned base for the F 11 3. Wing). One of the researchers in our little group at F11 Museum found the control tower log from the home base at Skavsta, Nyköping, but it made no mention of eight S 29:s taking off for F 17. However, it did mention eight S 29:s of 3. Sq taking off for F 21 at Luleå a week later! That's when, according to the pilot, the Wing was awarded a couple of days off in the mountains to fish for char in the mountain brooks and talk through the adventures of the operation. I haven't seen the log myself, so I don't know if it mentions the ID letters of the planes. If (that's saying if!) it does and if they used the same planes that took part in the operation, it might be possible to get hold of the serial numbers through other sources. But that would be a whole new research project in itself. BTW, just to counter any idea that the story could be just a 'tall tale', a retired colonel who used to be head of the Air Force Intelligence deprtment at the headquarters in Stockolm, has stated on the record that he remembers the photos well, and especially one set of them. The subject was the harbour of Riga, taken from the east! That means that the pilot in question had performed what was called 'a shot in the back of the head'. This was a tactic used by the recce pilots against a particularly well defended target. Instead of flying in over the harbour from the expected direction, from the sea, he would cross the coast at a less defended spot, make a 2 X 90° and approach the target from overland at combat speed, around 1000km/h at low level. Kind regards, Joachim 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobHol Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, flarpen said: Do you know any individual serial numbers on the aircraft taking part in this? The information may be found in the book “Över gänsen” https://forum.flyghistoria.org/viewtopic.php?f=254&t=21243 /Tobias Edited December 8, 2021 by TobHol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) To think that a few years ago I thought that the kits collection of recon aircraft flying over the Baltic during the Cold War would be small. Edited December 8, 2021 by Piotr Mikolajski Typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire31 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, TobHol said: The information may be found in the book “Över gänsen” https://forum.flyghistoria.org/viewtopic.php?f=254&t=21243 /Tobias Where in 'Över gränsen' did you find serial numbers of any S 29 involved in the operation? I was rather intimately involved in its production and I can't remember seeing any serials… 😉 Kind regards, Joachim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largescale32 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Both versions, B and F, will be released at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire31 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Largescale32 said: Both versions, B and F, will be released at the same time. And the C will be just a little while later? 😉 Kind regards, Joachim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largescale32 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 I will ask for a recce nose when I meet Jiri Valek ( FLY Models ) in spring at HpH. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 A Saab Tunnan in 1/32 for 2022? That's really good news! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) - ref. 32022 - Saab J-29F Tunnan - https://www.fly814.cz/saab-j-30 - ref. 32023 - Saab J-29B Tunnan - https://www.fly814.cz/saab-j-31 Source: https://www.facebook.com/artscale.eu/posts/4854967614598064 V.P. Edited January 20, 2022 by Homebee 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Having no separate part for the nose ring looks a little scary... But apart from that, it looks very tempting, even decals look good enough (although the roundel blue colour as always is too dark)! A little odd with almost black plastic. Release in February according to the link. Can't wait! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 It might provide a better fit regards the nose ring, plenty of kits have it as a separate part, and the fit is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Kagemusha said: It might provide a better fit regards the nose ring, plenty of kits have it as a separate part, and the fit is terrible. True. But this solution will also provide challenges if fit is not perfect. But we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagemusha Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bjorn said: True. But this solution will also provide challenges if fit is not perfect. But we'll see. We will, great to have the opportunity, let's hope it's a success for them, and you never know someone might produce a seamless intake, including nose ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, Kagemusha said: We will, great to have the opportunity, let's hope it's a success for them, and you never know someone might produce a seamless intake, including nose ring. Pilot Replicas did a good job on this on their Tunnan. But not perfect, and it is true that they are seldom seen... But I am ready to sand a lot to get a 1/32 Tunnan! Worth waiting for! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npb748r Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Looking forward to getting these. I know little about the actual aircraft but I really like the look of it. I also know nothing about the history around the UN planes so I'm looking forward to not only building but also learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Released - ref. 32022 - Saab J-29F Tunnan - https://www.fly814.cz/-472 - ref. 32023 - Saab J-29B Tunnan - https://www.fly814.cz/saab-j-32 V.P. Edited February 18, 2022 by Homebee 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) And also - ref. artm32011 - Masks Saab J 29F/B Tunnan Source: https://www.fly814.cz/mask-saab-j-29f/b-tunnan - ref. artm32014 - Mask Saab J 29F/B Tunnan wheels https://www.fly814.cz/mask-saab-j-29f/b-tunnan-wheels V.P. Edited February 18, 2022 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire31 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 J 29 Bertil and Filip already ordered… 😉 Congratulation to the release! May you sell a 100,000 of them, at least! And please don't forget a nice conversion kit for the S 29C! 😉 Kind regards, Joachim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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