JohnT

Freddie de Guingand ??

It does slightly remind me of a story where a young lady and a gentleman were engaging in some frenetic activity in the back seat of the vehicle when the chap suffered a significant dislocation of his back. The problem was is was an old style Mini as I recall and the paramedics attending his injury advised he could sustain a serious and permanent disability if they tried to get him twisted round and out the door. Enter the chaps from the fire brigade and in a flash the four roof pillars are cut through and one convertible mini, voila. The young lady was most inconsolable as the ambulance sped of with her lover to hospital. Thinking he was helping a friendly fireman said "Don't worry, he will be fine. He is in good hands." to which came the memorable response "Its not that. What am I going to tell my husband what happened to the car?"

I bet the driver was stoned

Great model and interesting movie if a somewhat implausible story/script. Please make sure that Mr Michael O'Leary knows its just a movie and not a teams meeting proposing new cost saving measures for Ryanair.

But is it art????

Cadbury chocolate - but only as I read it on an article this morning as another example of the ad boys allowing their imagination exceed their brief. Consignia ? Anyone?

@Selwyn your story reminded me of a very popular advertising campaign that was axed for similar reasons. Does anyone recall the soft drinks and mixers company Schweppes that ran a great series of adverts with the actor William Franklyn and when it got to the drink the strap line from "Schhh -you know who". IIRC the ad people ran a survey. The result was everyone loved the advert but identified with the leading actor/ story line rather than the product so that was the last of that.

No lover of Elon Musk but he could have won a prize on our 4 words thread with his post to Jaguar “Do you sell cars?”

My son and I are flying down to spend the day there on Monday. Are there any good places to eat after 4 when the museum closes. Doing a dad and son day out and flying stanstead back to Edinburgh at night.

Pete. I think one of the problems is that a particular car has a problem which then translates to every car of that type has an issue eg My 2 MGB’s. Accepted wisdom huge problems. I had both over 18 years and had 1 new alternator, 1 new radiator fan, and as the paint oxidised through age a bare metal re spray and to match new carpets and refurbed seats MGF & Tf. Had 4. Accepted wisdom build quality and engine issues. Experience - 12 years trouble free motoring Lotus Excel. Accepted wisdom Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious. Experience. Had to get a new exhaust tyres headlight replaced as Tarnish on reflector. Maybe I was just lucky but my good fortune never gets to anyones attention or into a list somewhere.

having owned an F Type for 4 years I can’t complain about reliability. Once when new it had a battery pre start problem. What I hated about the damn thing was you had to worry about it all the time as it had a vicious tendency to go sideways for no apparent reason so you had to be on top of it all the time. Had one interesting 90 degree sideways slide on a motorway at 80 mph - no more - from a driving straight ahead position and got it back in a straight line at the second attempt. Did what they book says and got away with it. Guy at Jaguar admitted they had a problem. After that I could not trust the vehicle. The 4 wheel drive version is a must. I’ve seen 2 Which surveys on subjects and products/ services where I really did know what they were looking at. Results were rubbish. Survey had been done by people who knew zero about the product and hadn’t a clue about how to process the information they had. Which were about to get sued by one business they slagged off and admitted their methodology was flawed but refused to print a correction. Nice of them. Couldn’t admit a grievous error that potentially damaged a business. The court action didn’t proceed because an analysis of the business going forward showed the poor which report made zero difference to their business so no financial loss.

But often wrong. Ask Gerald Ratner. He who crashed a national business with a couple of badly judged sentences. For those who might not know what doing a Ratner is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ratner#:~:text=People say%2C "How can you,last longer than the earrings". The Jaguar buyer demographics are that their loyal base won’t be amused by their in house advertising team antics headed up by Santino Pietrosanti from the US. I suspect the buyers they are looking to attract are more interested in other car marques. The Guardian newspaper seems to like it but that may more about the paper than anything else. Either way I can not see Ferrari demoting their prancing horse, Mercedes’ their star, BMW their propellor logo, etc etc etc any time soon but time will tell.

My son just pointed out that it’s not just the advert. It seems the company is doing away with the jaguar big cat company logo and replacing with some crappy new logo with inverted J ‘s I suspect their new wunderkid advertising team were still playing with crayons at kindergarten so missed the Gerald Ratner example of how to destroy a business in 24 hours. interesting Top Gear article here https://www.topgear.com/car-news/first-look/jaguar-rebrand-what-do-you-think

I blame my history teacher, one Peter Grainger for my schoolboy crush on the MGB. He had a green GT as I remember and it looked good and was British by God Sir. So the B roadster was in my sights and was the first car I bought myself with my own money. Having gotten into the mark and noting the old B wasn’t exactly a hot hatch I came across Ken Costello and the story of the V8. I added that to my wee stable at one stage. MG’s are good as affordable. And in my experience nowhere near as unreliable as they were made out to be The ones that got away would be in order of desire:- 1 E type jaguar soft top - I mean what else but out of pocket - lovely shape 2 MGA - another lovely shape 3 Lotus Esprit

And very easy to forge. Some panels, a roll of duct tape and some bananas and you could do a bunch of them Ok hat and time

Not a bad shout. Xtradecal could re-reprint/release sheet 32-007 which has a Black Arrows Hunter. Also a Blue Diamonds sheet would be great as well. I could see those two on a sheet with a Patrouille Suisse option maybe selling. Problem is for some reason 1/32 Hunter sales didnt seem to take off (pun intended ) and boxes were discounted. The 1/32 F-100 Super Sabre was never really a favourite of mine and more so as I am afraid of the burnt metal tail end. I have one in the stash that eyes me accusing IIRC I bought it from Wonderland at RIAT when they heavily discounted a pile of them. It was so cheap it would have been rude to walk on past

You are lucky. For the first time we both have BMW's in the household so one look at the car no one expects us to indicate far less be a courteous driver. I find I try really hard to disappoint heir expectations On the matter of cyclists my wife pointed out that while out and about on our country roads we stop for them where the road is narrow and slow right down if the road is wide enough to pass or if they are coming through from the other direction and we give them a cheery wave. No recognition and they all look so flaming miserable. Cycling is supposed to be fun yet never seen a happy cyclist yet around our way. Walkers, horse riders and other drivers yes but cyclists, no. We get excessively wavy and smiley just to wind the miserable gits up. Anyone driven in Edinburgh recently? They don't need traffic calming measures there. I have never seen so many potholes and very deep ones at that. There is one street in Colinton Mains that looks like the army at nearby Redford Barracks had been using it for extended mortar practise. I don't mean the odd regular pothole but dozens of big ones six inches deep and 18 inches wide within say a 10 feet length and that goes on for hundreds of yards at a time. Really dangerous for car drivers, cyclists, motor bikers and pedestrians all alike. I've never seen anything like it. It is pretty bad on other streets too. I have learned to pick my routes carefully when going into the city

Mind you I laughed my head off at both so not entirley wasted............... Only in New York. Pity I ate mine earlier but I've still got a board and plenty duct tape. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy87202v43no and Jaguar really..................... Nice car by the way - never seen stealth mode on a car before but handy if speeding past the cops

In response to the post from Les I do think that PE was quite innovatory back in the day and I can see that it still has many applications. Some of the rail work and lattice masts in maritime modelling look amazing. That said it to my mind it was used in some applications where it looks poor. For example in aircraft modelling where it was to represent a lever with a round knob grip on top, say throttle controls The two dimensional PE always niggled with me. Did I mention how fiddly it was too? I agree that the recent development of 3d printing for cockpit instruments is great as long as (like coloured pe) it is done well. As always you pay for what you get. Panels with background colour that just looks "off" and is not a match for any paint that's on the market does not help either but again that applies to both PE and 3d decals. I have acquired kits second hand and they have come with PE for the cockpit. I also bought some 3 d decals and looking at options is part good and part bad. I think its sensible to compare and see what horse is best for the course. That makes me wonder - On a forum such as this (sorry @Mike if this is adding to the day job) might there be scope for a section where the Massif could post and compare the Eduard (other manufacturers are available) PE set versus say the (Quinta (did I say other manufacturers are available?) 3d sets so an educated opinion can be made available to anyone starting on a project. It might save a bit of disappointment if another modeller comes along to find they had splashed out on A only to find B might have been a better option. Maybe simpler just to ask on here eg "I am about to build the 1/32 meteor. What cockpit AM is best here? PE or 3d?" Just a thought anyway.

I’d like in. I’ve a half dozen 1/32 hunters in the stash so I’d like to whittle that down to size a bit. Beautiful plane the Hunter. Classic

Just and lost for words other than well done. Its mind blowingly good

My mate and business partner had the standard Lancia Delta and it moved quickly enough until the date he changed gear and the transmission and even the gear stick fell through the floor onto the road. Underside had rotted pretty extensively on a car less than three year old. That same era I graduated from a rather hotter than usual Astra GTE (belonged to one John Cleland who had a habit of driving quickly and I am sure it had been tickled) to a larger nice new all white Sierra XR4x4. First time on a long journey was taking a new girlfriend away for a very long weekend in Chelentham etc - just happened to coincide with RIAT - funny that. Anyway I am rushing down the M6 late afternoon running late for a dinner booking and all the nice drivers in England kept moving over and letting me through. Wonderful courteous chaps I thought till I spotted all the police traffic cars were also all white XR4x4 Sierras That car has another story about me meeting some "characters" in a car park along with my clients very attractive wife (sort of Nigella slimmed down type) to pay a debt and get his Rolls Royce back from people he should not have messed with. They were very suspicious about the car at first. Interesting times. Very interesting lady too and she had the sense to leave him. She made any car "hot" but that really is another story Happy days PS had a MGB GT V8 that had been race tuned and raced. Now that was a hot hatch eater. Never knew how fast it would go as the dials vibrated too much over 120 to read them properly

In which case I’ve an F-105 or two, plus a Whirlwind (WW2) and a few Lightnings both EE and P-38 so can I sign up too please

Nice twin there. Or is it a quintuple? Either way a great model. One thing I always think when I see two aircraft joined together like this is what are the stress calculations. I find that I think that they or it just looks like it wants to fly apart !

Very well imagined, composed and executed. Truly artistic and meaningful. You have taken modelling onto the sphere or art