Paging Yak 9 camouflage experts

[Richard502]

P. 42 in Squadron  "Yak Fighters in Action" has a photo of a group of Yak 9DDs "at the 97th Bomb Group base at Amendola near Foggia, Italy". The first Yak (white wingtips, oversized stars on fuselage and rudder, small red star on landing gear cover) does look like it was painted in one color; at least my old eyes can not discern a color demarcation line on the fuselage. 

Was there a one-color scheme for Yak 9DDs? If so, which color, and was that color overall or uppers only with the usual light blue lower surfaces?

Unfortunately I can not scan the photo and haven't found it on the net.

TIA, Richard

[dragonlanceHR]

Standard AMT-11/12 geometric pattern.

Cheers,

Vedran

[TISO]

 

The best option is to ask on this forum:

http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php

[Troy Smith]

8 hours ago, Richard502 said:

P. 42 in Squadron  "Yak Fighters in Action" has a photo of a group of Yak 9DDs "at the 97th Bomb Group base at Amendola near Foggia, Italy". The first Yak (white wingtips, oversized stars on fuselage and rudder, small red star on landing gear cover) does look like it was painted in one color; at least my old eyes can not discern a color demarcation line on the fuselage. 

Was there a one-color scheme for Yak 9DDs? If so, which color, and was that color overall or uppers only with the usual light blue lower surfaces?

Unfortunately I can not scan the photo and haven't found it on the net.

TIA, Richard

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A line of Yak-9DD of 236 IAD at Bari, in Southern Italy, ready to escort US bombers on a raid against Rumania.

The first plane, and few other ones, appear to be pained with upper and side surface in solid grey, probably AMT-11, while other ones have the usual disryptive camouflage.

see

http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/colors/1943-45-fighters/1943-45.html

 

 

[72modeler]

Troy,

 

In that photo contained in  the collection you posted above, that shows VVS aircraft on display, on the LH side of the photo there is a lineup in which I think I see a Hurricane Mk 1, a P-40B/C, and what looks like a Mustang 1. What do you think? Slightly off-topic- I apologize!

Mike

[Graham Boak]

In the Bari photo, the first aircraft appears to have a demarcation running from in front of the fin diagonally forwards and downward to behind the star, and also on the fin.  Also possibly on top of the cowling, and maybe just aft of the cockpit opening underneath the slid-back canopy.  Not the clearest of photos to be sure about anything.

[dragonlanceHR]

1 hour ago, Troy Smith said:

see

http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/colors/1943-45-fighters/1943-45.html

 

 

Massimo should really clean up the site from some old misconceptions. Summer of '44 is too early for single colour upper camo.

[Troy Smith]

1 hour ago, 72modeler said:

that shows VVS aircraft on display, on the LH side of the photo there is a lineup in which I think I see a Hurricane Mk 1, a P-40B/C, and what looks like a Mustang 1. What do you think?

it's as caption the NII VVS showroom.

NII= Soviet Airforce test centre..

what is of note is the both the P-40 and Hurricane have still got USAAF and RAF markings applied.     Which IS unusual.  Unless they were repainted for the display? 

 

40 minutes ago, dragonlanceHR said:

Massimo should really clean up the site from some old misconceptions. Summer of '44 is too early for single colour upper camo.

 well @Massimo Tessitoriis a member here, and you are a member there,  given that VVS colour knowledge has expanded and changed with new information,  it's worth mentioning this to him.

 

Its easy to see why this photo gets captioned as one colour upper though.

[72modeler]

8 minutes ago, Troy Smith said:

Which IS unusual.  Unless they were repainted for the display? 

I think that might be the case,Troy, judging by the oversized red center to the national insignia on the P-40 fuselage.

Mike

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi, 

my impression of that plane 2 (?) is that all the uppersurface was solid grey. It was an out of standard repainting, extending under the stabilizer line.  I see a color division over the rear fuselage, but it looks extended on the red star too, so probably it is a defect of the photo. 

The paint on the nose is semigloss, so it was likely a recent repainting. Difficult that a camo pattern could be invisible in such conditions, also because the camouflage is visible on other planes of the same unit.

It's more difficult to explain why the light blue area isn't visible on the rear fuselage.

Regards

Massimo

[dragonlanceHR]

Answered on HS Plane Talking. Hitting myself on the head for not recognising those are -9D's in the above photo 🔨

 

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Edited June 16, 2020 by dragonlanceHR
Fingers too fast.