dreamwriter Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Hy everyone, The answer I'm looking for is to the question asked in the topic title.Can I build a japanese F-15,the DJ,from the GWH F-15I? I've compared sprues of the F-15I and the GWH F-15DJ released under Pit-Road,and the only sprue from the DJ release missing in the F-15I box is sprue Q,that has another speed brake.The rest is all there,but since I cant checkthe complete assembly instrutions from the F-15DJ kit to see if the speed brake used is the one on sprue Q or the one on sprue B,I would like to know if anyone knows for sure if the build is possible. Thank you in advance for your help. Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Have you checked the cockpit and for featherless exhaust nozzles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautique Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I was wondering the same thing the other day in relation to DJ mod, just scored a Revell F-15E but want to do a DJ...I know nothing about Eagles however, so I'd also be very interested in an answer to the above question, would like to try a GWH kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamwriter Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 hours ago, exdraken said: Have you checked the cockpit and for featherless exhaust nozzles? No,I only compared sprues between the two kits from GWH.Are there noticeable differences in the cockpit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverkite Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) Taking some bits from various ARC threads regarding F-15D camouflaged as F-15E aircrafts,probably comes with errors as I'm not an expert nor I'm using any kind of book reference Main landing gear doors,possibly nose door too,legs and wheels are different C/D airbrake was different from E due the absence of fuselage recess but later C/D airframes were also assembled without it Some panel lines are different due Fast Packs being in the way,so to ease maintenance some of them were changed Non MSIP I/II upgraded J and DJ retained engine saber drains and also the two small antennas under intake trunks Heck of a built here which explains whatever I'm missing in terms of details https://www.scalespot.com/onthebench/f15dj/build.htm Different fuselage pieces DJ I and I presume it's the same on E Built J fuselage Real DJ Luigi Edited March 11, 2018 by Silverkite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamwriter Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, Silverkite said: Taking some bits from various ARC threads regarding F-15D camouflaged as F-15E aircrafts,probably comes with errors as I'm not an expert nor I'm using any kind of book reference Main landing gear doors,possibly nose door too,legs and wheels are different C/D airbrake was different from E due the absence of fuselage recess but later C/D airframes were also assembled without it Some panel lines are different due Fast Packs being in the way,so to ease maintenance some of them were changed Non MSIP I/II upgraded J and DJ retained engine saber drains and also the two small antennas under intake trunks Heck of a built here which explains whatever I'm missing in terms of details https://www.scalespot.com/onthebench/f15dj/build.htm Different fuselage pieces DJ I and I presume it's the same on E Built J fuselage Real DJ Luigi Hi Luigi, I already saw the build on scalespot,turning a B/D into a DJ,precisely the same scheme I want to do.But the GWH kit I have is the I and not the B/D.Isn't the F-15I kit updated compared to the B/D? Comparing the B/D sprues with the I sprues I noticed several differences, but not when comparing the I with the DJ sprues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spejic Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 3 hours ago, dreamwriter said: I already saw the build on scalespot,turning a B/D into a DJ,precisely the same scheme I want to do.But the GWH kit I have is the I and not the B/D.Isn't the F-15I kit updated compared to the B/D? Yes, the F-15I is a slightly modified F-15E, so there will be more changes to make it a F-15DJ than if you modifying a F-15B/D. Besides the changes Silverkite mentioned, you also need to modify the arresting hook, remove the gun reloading lozenge, remove the rear warning radars at the very tips of the fuselage near the back of the horizontal tails, and make sure you use the thin weight balances at the tips of the tails (which the F-15I did, but the F-15E did not). 4 hours ago, dreamwriter said: Are there noticeable differences in the cockpit? Yes, the instrument panels, side consoles, the control sticks - even the shape of the rear cowl - are totally different. You would probably need to buy a third party resin replacement cockpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, spejic said: Yes, the F-15I is a slightly modified F-15E, so there will be more changes to make it a F-15DJ than if you modifying a F-15B/D. Besides the changes Silverkite mentioned, you also need to modify the arresting hook, remove the gun reloading lozenge, remove the rear warning radars at the very tips of the fuselage near the back of the horizontal tails, and make sure you use the thin weight balances at the tips of the tails (which the F-15I did, but the F-15E did not). Yes, the instrument panels, side consoles, the control sticks - even the shape of the rear cowl - are totally different. You would probably need to buy a third party resin replacement cockpit. all above super correct, if you notice them or care is up to you! the things you easily notice with the canopy closed are the fin tip counter balance wight, probably gear doors, and.... thats it. take care not to mount any conformal fuel tanks, other F-15I specific warts and blobs, and paint it correctly in Japanese grey camouflage and add respective decals. Hardly anybody will notice I guess.... me included! Edited March 11, 2018 by exdraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamwriter Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Thank you all for you help! It did clear my doubts. I will probably wait a little longer to see if I can get my hands on a GWH DJ kit. I also have the Hasegawa F-15J/DJ kit that could be an option, even tough I know it lacks various details the DJ has,starting with the static arrays in the nose,but that could be solved if I can adapt the spare radome that comes with the GWH F-15I that most certainly is for the DJ since it has the static arrays. Cheers, Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautique Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Quote I will probably wait a little longer to see if I can get my hands on a GWH DJ kit +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstorin Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 3:10 PM, dreamwriter said: Thank you all for you help! It did clear my doubts. I will probably wait a little longer to see if I can get my hands on a GWH DJ kit. I also have the Hasegawa F-15J/DJ kit that could be an option, even tough I know it lacks various details the DJ has,starting with the static arrays in the nose,but that could be solved if I can adapt the spare radome that comes with the GWH F-15I that most certainly is for the DJ since it has the static arrays. Cheers, Bruno Wolfpack makes a conversion set that converts a Hasegawa or Academy F-15C/D into an F-15J/DJ. It is out of production but crops up on eBay pretty regularly. Also can be used to correct the inadequacies of the Hasegawa F15J/DJ. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/534512-wolfpack-wp48020-f-15j-dj-jasdf-eagle-update-set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamwriter Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 hours ago, mstorin said: Wolfpack makes a conversion set that converts a Hasegawa or Academy F-15C/D into an F-15J/DJ. It is out of production but crops up on eBay pretty regularly. Also can be used to correct the inadequacies of the Hasegawa F15J/DJ. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/534512-wolfpack-wp48020-f-15j-dj-jasdf-eagle-update-set Yep I know,but can´t find it anywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dot Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) Hi there, going back back to one of the original points about the two speed brakes, Japanese Eagles have the smooth interior air brake that is common to all F-15s but in the last few years they have been switching to a type with lots of ribs on the inner surface. Sorry, but you really need a picture of the plane at a point in time to be 100% accurate. If you are doing a model from years ago, use the smooth one. andy Edited March 20, 2018 by Red Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverkite Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I think Bruno is going to build 92-8068 http://www.f-15j.com/arc/vehicle_info.cgi?backurl=./vehicle_lst.cgi&radio_call=068 I think on ARC someone asked some detail regarding reinforcement ribs around both rudders that from time to time were visible in earlier or late photos,so also has to check that,sadly F-15J dotto com doesn't come with clear airbrake pictures for it so it's a guess work Luigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Resin Art 1-48, https://www.1001modelkits.com/f-15-model-kit/28882-resin-art-ra4802-mcdonnell-douglas-f-15-eagle-speed-brake.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamwriter Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 20/03/2018 at 10:36 AM, Silverkite said: I think Bruno is going to build 92-8068 http://www.f-15j.com/arc/vehicle_info.cgi?backurl=./vehicle_lst.cgi&radio_call=068 I think on ARC someone asked some detail regarding reinforcement ribs around both rudders that from time to time were visible in earlier or late photos,so also has to check that,sadly F-15J dotto com doesn't come with clear airbrake pictures for it so it's a guess work Luigi Luigi, I want to build the DJ, specifically the 2013 Aggressor with Splinter camo in two tone blue. The speed brake is not a problem since it will be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverkite Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 9 hours ago, dreamwriter said: Luigi, I want to build the DJ, specifically the 2013 Aggressor with Splinter camo in two tone blue. The speed brake is not a problem since it will be closed. Happy modelling! Luigi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dot Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 20 March 2018 at 3:23 PM, Tonka said: Resin Art 1-48, https://www.1001modelkits.com/f-15-model-kit/28882-resin-art-ra4802-mcdonnell-douglas-f-15-eagle-speed-brake.html I have used this beautiful piece of resin casting and it is very easy to install andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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