stevej60 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Hi folks,as a second entry I would like to do Airfix,s recent Zero.I have had this kit over a year and cut everything of the sprues and just never got any further,I have been looking around for reference photos etc and on this very site found navy birds superb build with yellow undersides so may go that route but be warned I intend an over the top wear and tear finish which many will reel back in horror from! Edited May 8, 2014 by snapper_city 1
Wolwe82 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Nice choice steve! have one on work bench right now too - if you have any info about interrior colours for this camo, or any simple reference where would be serial number = colour X, let me (and probably others too ) know here please I m sorry for posting it but i spent all night searching and all i got is headache (and a bit of frustration ).
snapper_city Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 A nice choice Steve. I'm looking forward to seeing your weathering skills on this...
Jessica Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Mitsubishi cockpit green was very similar to RAF interior green. With a bit of weathering and wear nobody would notice the difference. 1
stevej60 Posted January 30, 2014 Author Posted January 30, 2014 Nice choice steve! have one on work bench right now too - if you have any info about interrior colours for this camo, or any simple reference where would be serial number = colour X, let me (and probably others too ) know here please I m sorry for posting it but i spent all night searching and all i got is headache (and a bit of frustration ). Have to agree with Jessica looking at all the info on the net the real aircraft I have seen seem to have interior green paintwork,but modellers seem to finish them in black and even a metalic silver blue which I know the wheel wells were finished in so I am going the interior green route.
Jessica Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 The metallic blue is a result of generalisation from a few samples which crept into the references during the 1950s and 60s and then couldn't be dislodged. Aotake was widely used to preserve interior surfaces, and indeed certain aircraft did have it in their cockpit areas but A6Ms were not among that number.
Wolwe82 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Thanks guys and one more question if i may - how would u paint interrior outside of cockpit? i saw grey or aotake on colour photos but it was all from museums, so trying to find how to paint inner fuselage out of cockpit. Thats my last spamm here steve i m sorry i m taking a bit of your thread, wish you best luck in your build just one more day !
Jessica Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Most likely it would have been Aotake in the rest of the fuselage interior.
Wolwe82 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 OK, thanks Jessica for all advices and once more sorry Steve for stealing your thread a bit
Giorgio N Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 This is a lovely kit ! I have one on the workbench myself and apart from a slightly badly moulded cowling I've not had any problem yet. It looks good straight from the box and is a great canvas for anyone who wants to add some detail Colours of details vary depending on the manufacturer of the Aircraft: Mitsubishi ones had a certain green in the cockpit, Nakajima ones a different green. Now I understand that one is not far from british grey-green, the other more olive, can't remember which is which (but I have a feeling Nakajima,s is closer to the British). Wheel Wells IIRC are in the lower surface colour for Mitsubishi aircrafts and in aotake for the Nakajima ones. 1
stevej60 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Posted January 31, 2014 This is a lovely kit ! I have one on the workbench myself and apart from a slightly badly moulded cowling I've not had any problem yet. It looks good straight from the box and is a great canvas for anyone who wants to add some detail Colours of details vary depending on the manufacturer of the Aircraft: Mitsubishi ones had a certain green in the cockpit, Nakajima ones a different green. Now I understand that one is not far from british grey-green, the other more olive, can't remember which is which (but I have a feeling Nakajima,s is closer to the British). Wheel Wells IIRC are in the lower surface colour for Mitsubishi aircrafts and in aotake for the Nakajima ones. Thanks Giorgio glad you mentioned the wheel wells,most models on the net have the aotake finish but colour photo,s of real aircraft(many restored) are in the under surface colour of the aircraft.
stevej60 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Posted February 1, 2014 Here,s the progress so far,Airfix provide a very good interior with this kit and after a dry brush and wash I,m happy that it looks busy enough. 1
nick32 Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Good stuff. I built one of these a little while ago, i would say its probably my favourite of the 'new' Airfix kits. Went together really well and looks just right when done. Lokking forward to seeing your paint job and weathering! Nick
stevej60 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 Hi folks, heres the Zero up to date,outstanding little kit no filler needed at all.I have under coated it in silver as part of the weathering plan which will involve using maskol which I saw used in a magazine article so it could end in tears!Thanks for looking. 1
snapper_city Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Never tried the Maskol method but in principle it should work. Recreating worn shapes will be the biggest headache I imagine.
Wolwe82 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 i ll be watching this, nice going so far steve. if you want some inspiration, i mean, for the chipping, to make it into some shape and so, you can check my zero WIP thread, today i did post there some war or maybe early post war photos of zeroes, which i ll be using as reference later too so feel free to check it out, hope it can help a bit
snapper_city Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 After thinking about the chipping. Would the salt technique be a better option than maskol?
stevej60 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 After thinking about the chipping. Would the salt technique be a better option than maskol? I have heard of salt for paint chipping but never checked out to see how it,s done.the maskol has been applied so fingers crossed when the time comes to remove it it works if it,s a disaster at least it can be ruled out for anyone else thinking of giving it a go! 1
stevej60 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 i ll be watching this, nice going so far steve. if you want some inspiration, i mean, for the chipping, to make it into some shape and so, you can check my zero WIP thread, today i did post there some war or maybe early post war photos of zeroes, which i ll be using as reference later too so feel free to check it out, hope it can help a bit Thanks have been following your superb build since it started and can,t believe the detail achieved for such a small kit. 1
snapper_city Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Salt technique http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/57027-salt-weathering-techniques/?hl=+salt%20+chipping%20+technique
Wolwe82 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Thanks steve a lot and sorry i didnt mean it as some kind of commercial, just wanted to help a bit with inspiration, as the old zero photos are just awesome (at least in my eyes ) . I hope the finish of your zero ll be great for whatever technique you ll go
stevej60 Posted February 7, 2014 Author Posted February 7, 2014 A few days off and a bit more progress,as I said I,m going with yellow undersides and four cotes later I,m happy to call it done.So next step is the top surface colour and I am trying to decide the shade of green.I have tamiyas correct colour for the aircraft but as I am showing heavy wear need to achieve a lighter "bleached" colour.Thanks for looking 2
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