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1/48 Junkers Ju-86-K2 by Planes from Hungary

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Now the cooling flaps:

 

-This is the section C-D in my first drawing. Note how each flap covers 30o of the circumference. 11 equally large flaps, the last 12th/30o is covered by the carburetor cover. How the flaps overlap each other can be seen too.

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Single flap in detail and the stiffeners on the inside. I suspect that this is the top flap, no 7, since it overlaps on both sides. As the plane in the museum is elevated on plinths we have not been able to take pics from above. Not yet that is, plans are underway. The local IPMS chapter are looking into this...

 

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(TBC)

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Hi Tomas,

 

thank you very much for providing such detailed info, they are saved for future use (now I really want to convert my Italeri kit into a swedish machine).

Please keep the infos coming.

 

Cheers

Markus

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Thanks, will continue until all is shown. At least the engine installation, anyway. The Planes kit is so beautifully done that no further drawings needs to shown regarding other details. He seems to have got it all right in his 1/48 kit, the drawings just confirm it. 

For modifying the Italeri Ju-86E to a Swedish B3, do you know that Kora have made a whole series of detail sets/conversions? See Hannants here I have not tried them myself, being a 1/48 modeller.

Tomas

Edit: Out of curiosity I checked: it seems that Hannant's still have a lot of sets that are now OOP at the manufacturer (Kora), Might be worthwhile considering "getting them while you can".

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On 3/8/2020 at 7:51 PM, Shorty84 said:

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Say, old chap, why are the S-49 drawings below the Junkers? Are you working on a kit?

 

Cheers,

 

Vedran

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Hi @dragonlanceHR,

well spotted. Since around 2 years I work on a model of an Ikarus S-49A in 1/48. Starting point was the fuselage of a Zvezda Yak-3, suitably modified. The vertical stabiliser was done from the reshaped wingtips of the Yak-3, the wings are shaped from a pair of Revell MiG-29 wings (1/32).

 

I've also started with the wings for an S-49C (the rest will be fully scratch built).

 

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(Sorry for the digression to anybody else!)

 

Cheers

Markus

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Can anyone comment on the color scheme the Hungarian Ju-86 depicted in the upper left hand corner—and apologies for the poor photo. Thank you spacer.png

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I have seen the light gray interpreted as dark green and the nacelles a tan. But your interpretation makes much more sense. During the last days of the war the Ju-86’s painted by German techs? 

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Even further to the rear:

 

-Here the actuator mechanism for the cooling flaps can be seen. Academic really, only the actuators themselves can be seen, sticking out from holes in the cover behind the cylinder bank. The size of the holes are approx. four times the dia of the actuators.

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Here the cover itself, from the from the front and from the side. This is the front part of the engine gondola. The cover in the Planes kit is rather different, a new has to made somehow by the builder. I have yet to find something useful that can be taken from a kit. The cover in the Blenheim kits will not work, wrong shape.

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(TBC)

 

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Those pipes...:

On the Blenheim, Gladiator and other aircraft with Mercurys, two prominent pipes can be seen, with trumpet like openings just behind the propeller. Those pipes can be found on our B3 engine installation too. But here one pipe is smaller in diameter, on the left engine the smaller pipe is outboard. I believe the smaller pipe is inboard on the righthand engine, but I admit, I forgot to check!

EDIT: I believe these pipes had something to do with ventilation of the crankcase? Never mind, I have not heard nor read anything about left- and righthanded engines. So the pipes are probably arranged the same on both sides.  

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Top:

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(TBC)

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A comment regarding later Hungarian camouflage:

From the profiles it looks like Hungary did like many other axis allies, they accepted recieved German aircraft with their factory-applied camouflage (RLM74/75/76 on the 109 for example).

If they did repaint their Ju-86K-2 in a later camouflage scheme, similar to the German one, that would be interesting!

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I am finding no evidence that Hungarian Ju-86K’s were painted or re-painted in tan color. Very hard to tell in B&W photos but the lighter camouflage on Ju-86s appears to be either an olive green or light gray.

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