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 Mar 8 2009, 10:55 AM
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Obsessed member  Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 28-January 08 From: Hull East Yorks Member No.: 2,573  |
After two OOB builds,I thought it was high time I attempted another scratch-build.This time it would be one of my favourite class of cruiser,the Dido AA class.Althought there is a kit of th Sirius from ISW,it would cost a packet,with the pound being so low,and I was unwilling to pay though the nose for something of dubious quality.
After much thought,I fixed on the Cleopatra,as in Dec 41,she carried an interesting four colour camo scheme.She carried a full set of five 5.25" turrets,many of her sisters had a reduced number of turrets due to shortages,two ,in fact were armed with 4.5"guns. Well the Reeder shipyard creaks into action again.Bye for now Phil  I`ve only got a bit of referance material!  The basic hull outline is made from 80thou PK  |
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Mar 8 2009, 11:08 AM
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Boa Constricted  Group: Root Admin Posts: 224 Joined: 23-March 07 From: Chester, UK Member No.: 1 |
Well... no-one can accuse you of being chicken!
 I shall be watching this one with my eyes, interest & popcorn 
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Mar 8 2009, 11:26 AM
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Old Hand Group: Members Posts: 454 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Cornwall Member No.: 2,462 |
Phil each one of your builds is like watching a gripping drama, I can't wait for the next episode.
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Mar 8 2009, 03:32 PM
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Some say he believes Star Wars is a documentary...  Group: Members Posts: 4,576 Joined: 4-October 07 From: The home of Shredded Wheat and Blower Bentleys Member No.: 2,022 |
Phil, judging by your previous builds, you'll have finished a masterpiece before I've had time to pick my next kit!
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Mar 8 2009, 10:13 PM
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Know-it-all Group: IPMS Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Cotswolds Member No.: 2,942 |
Hi Phil,
Inspirational - will be following this one as I have a few RN ships (with family connections) that I'd like to model in 1:350 and suspect scratch is the way to go. I already have the Profile Morskie on the Ceres Class cruisers and would love to build my grandfathers ship - HMS Curlew... Just need the inspiration to start - and I think you're doing a good job of that! Iain |
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Mar 8 2009, 11:24 PM
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Who me? Group: IPMS Members Posts: 2,917 Joined: 6-June 07 From: Swansea, S Wales Member No.: 392 |
Hi Phil,
This looks an interesting project, shall be watching this with interest! Can I ask whether you've ever experienced any warping in your scratchbuilds when using plasticard in single layers like that ? Good luck with the project! Keef |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:13 PM
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Obsessed member Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 28-January 08 From: Hull East Yorks Member No.: 2,573 |
I`ve started to skin the hull,with 20thou PK.The pronounce "knuckle",towards the bow,was reproduced by two pieces of 20thou at slightly different angles,and then fairing in with Green stuff filler.This didn`t prove very succesful,so when the filler had dried,I added some Milliput epoxy filler,which turned out more suitable. After much sanding the curved shape was reproduced.
Bye Phil   
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Mar 9 2009, 08:23 PM
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Obsessed member Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 28-January 08 From: Hull East Yorks Member No.: 2,573 |
QUOTE (keefr22 @ Mar 8 2009, 11:24 PM)  Hi Phil, This looks an interesting project, shall be watching this with interest! Can I ask whether you've ever experienced any warping in your scratchbuilds when using plasticard in single layers like that ? Good luck with the project! Keef Hi Keef,Up to press,I`ve never experienced "warping"with any single thickness PK,no doubt it will happen at some stage,it`s called "Sods Law"!!Thanks Phil |
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Mar 10 2009, 05:27 PM
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Obsessed member Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 28-January 08 From: Hull East Yorks Member No.: 2,573 |
Now that the hull is finished,I`ve turned my attention to the maindeck.For the first time I`ve used some "Evergreen"scribed plastic to simulate the wooden planking.(Thanks Roger!).I`m very impressed with it,and plan to use it in future projects.
I`ve started to mix the colours.According to the W.P. book on RN camouflage,Vol 1, in 1941 Cleopatra had a colour scheme as follows: MS1,very dark gray, B5,dark blue gray B6,Lt blue gray MS 4a,Lt greeny gray(almost like Sky) No information is availble regarding the deck colours,so I`m going to leave the main wooden decks a natural wood colour,and the steel decks dark gray.and hope for the best! Bye Phil  
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Mar 10 2009, 05:51 PM
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Know-it-all Group: Members Posts: 3,565 Joined: 21-July 07 From: Arnold (Nottingham) Member No.: 777 |
Great work as usual Phil, that decking looks terrific!
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Mar 10 2009, 10:13 PM
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Know-it-all Group: IPMS Members Posts: 1,027 Joined: 5-April 08 From: Poole, Dorset but I come from Oxford Member No.: 2,838 |
Well there's certainly some great stuff on Britmodeller tonight! Looks great!
Martin Well there's certainly some great stuff on Britmodeller tonight! Looks great! Martin |
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Mar 11 2009, 05:03 PM
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Obsessed member Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 28-January 08 From: Hull East Yorks Member No.: 2,573 |
After debating whether or not to display the model going at 30 knots,I chickened out,and decided to show the Cleo at anchor.I`ve cut the outline of the hull in a sheet of Obechi,which I then glued to a wooden base,the water effect was achieved by a thick coat of Evostik PVA glue,when dry it was painted ,remembering to paint the area around the ship a slightly lighter colour,and a small wake was painted at the stern ,bow,and where the anchor chain goes into the water.
The camo pattern has been painted,along with the teak deck,after a coat of Kleer,the decals for the draught markings were put on.I tried a new technique for simulating wooden deck,I read about this in FSM.This is to make a connoction of water,acrylic paint( Humbrol no62 service brown),and a couple of drops of washing-up liquid,making a `sludge`,This I applied with a cotton bud,and used a clean bud to remove any excess.Worked out pretty well. Bye for now Phil    
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Mar 11 2009, 05:39 PM
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Know-it-all Group: IPMS Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Cotswolds Member No.: 2,942 |
Crumbs - fast work!
I dug the drawings out for HMS Curlew last night - I may well make a start. If I do it will be at snails pace. Are you scratch-building everything - or borrowing parts for guns/boats etc from other kits? Iain This post has been edited by 32SIG: Mar 11 2009, 08:31 PM |
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Mar 11 2009, 08:05 PM
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Obsessed member Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 28-January 08 From: Hull East Yorks Member No.: 2,573 |
QUOTE (32SIG @ Mar 11 2009, 05:39 PM) Crumbs - fast work! I dug the drawings out for HMS Curlew last night - I may well make a start. If I do it will be at snails pace. Are you scratch-building everything - or bowwing parts for guns/boats etc from other kits? Iain Hi Iain,I using the 5.25" turrets from the Tamiya KGV,and I have many spares that I can use for the boats etc,but all the main structures will be scratch-built cheers Phil This post has been edited by Phil Reeder: Mar 12 2009, 05:33 PM |
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Mar 12 2009, 01:48 AM
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Know-it-all Group: IPMS Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Cotswolds Member No.: 2,942 |
Thanks for the info Phil - my spares box is pretty huge - but no ship items (last ship model I built when I was about 7!) - so I'll be scanning the WEM catalogue
Need to finish my U-Boat first - then I might have a go at Hood - as a buddy of mine, Bill Stone - WWI vet that died last month  - served on her in the twenties and at least that's a full kit and gives me something to cut my teeth on before scratchbuilding.Iain |
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Mar 12 2009, 08:51 AM
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Some say he believes Star Wars is a documentary... Group: Members Posts: 4,576 Joined: 4-October 07 From: The home of Shredded Wheat and Blower Bentleys Member No.: 2,022 |
Nice work, Phil. The deck paintwork looks great.
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Mar 12 2009, 07:57 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 27-January 09 From: Northern Virginia, U.S. Member No.: 4,180 |
Way cool. Nice hull work.
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Mar 14 2009, 02:42 PM
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Obsessed member Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 28-January 08 From: Hull East Yorks Member No.: 2,573 |
The hull is now finished ,and fixed to the base .As I`m displaying the model at anchor,I drilled a small hole in the seascape,and with CA attached the chain,then I threaded the chain though a the hawser hole in the hull,and lead this to the capstan.A start has been made detailing the deck ,as usual I`ve started at the bow,the two ropes,over the bow are for a pair of Paravanes.These are used for sweeping moored mines.Bye for now Phil
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Mar 14 2009, 02:45 PM
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Dibble tamer, Blanchett admirer... Group: Members Posts: 1,817 Joined: 14-November 07 From: Hemel hempstead,Herts Member No.: 2,311 |
Nice scratchbuilding. Good looking ship.
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Mar 14 2009, 02:49 PM
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Dibble tamer, Blanchett admirer... Group: Members Posts: 1,817 Joined: 14-November 07 From: Hemel hempstead,Herts Member No.: 2,311 |
Fun bit to come I sense...
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