Buccaneer S.1

[Davec_24]

Hi all,

I'm planning a Buccaneer S.1 build (probably for the up-coming group build!), and wondered if any of you would be able to help me with the following:

1) Did the S.1 have different ejection seats to the S.2? I'm going to get me a batch of seats for other projects later today, so if so I'll get some for the Bucc as well!

2) The S.1 wouldn't have had the MDC cord in the canopy - does anyone know if Bucc canopies without said MDC are anywhere to be had?

3) Did the S.1 have a retractable refuelling probe, or did some machines just not have one? If it was a retractable one, will I need to scribe a bay for it, etc.?

4) Apart from the air intakes and boundary layer control inlets on the leading edges of the wings, what else was different externally, compared to an early S.2?

Thanks all, I appeal to your expertise!

[Ian @ KitsforCash]

Hi all,

I'm planning a Buccaneer S.1 build (probably for the up-coming group build!), and wondered if any of you would be able to help me with the following:

1) Did the S.1 have different ejection seats to the S.2? I'm going to get me a batch of seats for other projects later today, so if so I'll get some for the Bucc as well!

2) The S.1 wouldn't have had the MDC cord in the canopy - does anyone know if Bucc canopies without said MDC are anywhere to be had?

3) Did the S.1 have a retractable refuelling probe, or did some machines just not have one? If it was a retractable one, will I need to scribe a bay for it, etc.?

4) Apart from the air intakes and boundary layer control inlets on the leading edges of the wings, what else was different externally, compared to an early S.2?

Thanks all, I appeal to your expertise!

hi Dave

just so happens i'm nearly finished our 1:72 scale conversion and a recce pack....

differences are

the pen nib exhaust deflector (its shorter)

intakes

bump on the leading edge of the fin

what appears to be a fuel dump pipe (port side lower fuselage below mid fin point.

hth

regards ian

Edited February 6, 2010 by iant

[Muzz]

Dave

No retractable refuelling probe on any Bucc, one was trialled but never adopted, pretty certain the bolt on probe only appeared with the S2.

Murray

Edited February 6, 2010 by Muzz

[theplasticsurgeon]

1) Did the S.1 have different ejection seats to the S.2? I'm going to get me a batch of seats for other projects later today, so if so I'll get some for the Bucc as well!

2) The S.1 wouldn't have had the MDC cord in the canopy - does anyone know if Bucc canopies without said MDC are anywhere to be had?

3) Did the S.1 have a retractable refuelling probe, or did some machines just not have one? If it was a retractable one, will I need to scribe a bay for it, etc.?

4) Apart from the air intakes and boundary layer control inlets on the leading edges of the wings, what else was different externally, compared to an early S.2?

Thanks all, I appeal to your expertise!

Yes - Yeovilton has an S1 and S2 Buccaneers side by side. The S1 has a single point face curtain handle, whereas the S2 has a two point handle.

Don't know any other details, but will be checking their S2 next weekend - for when I build my Airfix FAA Buccaneer (probably in the GB)

[Ian @ KitsforCash]

from ejectorseats .co.uk

Buccaneer S2

Mk 6MSA, 6MSB

RAF

Buccaneer S2 / S1

Mk 4M, 4MS, 4MSA

RoyalNavy

[Plastic Bonsai]

The S1 did have the retractable probe where the fixed one was fitted. It popped straight up so probably a small circular panel. I read a "Learned about Flying from That" article about an S2 trained crew in a S1 low level over Scotland noticing the extra switch and wondering what it did. In they end they just had to try it and when they found it was the refuelling probe extension/retraction they spent the rest of the sortie playing with it. I think the "Lesson" was don't play with things you don't know about. I don't think the probe was reliable so they replaced with a fixed one on the MK 2.

[DamienB]

Only a handful of very early Buccs in the development batch had the retractable probe, which was not a success due to being too short to get the drogue into an area of clear air without disturbing flow into the intakes.

[Mark M]

this is the S1 from newark

LINKY

with regard to canopys, yes there is one without the mdc, ill try and find the link for you

[Mark M]

here the canopy i think im about 80%

canopy

other buccaneer bits

link

Edited February 6, 2010 by markmarples

[Davec_24]

Thanks for all the help guys! Mark, do you know if the vac-formed 1/48 canopy on Aeroclub would be suitable for the S.1?

[Dave Fleming]

The S1 had the straighter wing tips (retro fitted to S2s as well)

[Davec_24]

The S1 had the straighter wing tips (retro fitted to S2s as well)

Ah, an important one that I would otherwise have missed! Would these be the same as the shorter tips (present in the Airfix 1/48 RAF Buccaneer boxing, as well as the longer tips) that were added to Buccs in RAF service to reduce fatigue or some such?

[Hughgos hobby bench]

The S1 had short wing tips, the S2 had longer tips which were later removed to reduce fatigue/stress loadings on the main spars.

Hugh.

[Mark M]

Thanks for all the help guys! Mark, do you know if the vac-formed 1/48 canopy on Aeroclub would be suitable for the S.1?

im not sure i cant find a picture!, i may well order one in the future for the group build