Pete in Lincs Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 More on Vincent Bunting & James Hyde (plus pictures) here https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/online-exhibitions/pilots-of-the-caribbean/across-the-commands/the-second-world-war-1939-to-1945-across-the-commands-part-2.aspx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, TAG said: Here's a photo of the aforementioned Jim Hyde and Dingo, hard to tell what mark of Spitfire that is, though. Looks like a mid-late Mk.IX The chin intake appears to be longer than an earlier Mark. 6 hours ago, Graham Boak said: Looks like a Mk.IX. The later windscreen plus the large Aerovee filter under the nose. That would also be right for 1944. Thanks Graham thats what I thought as well. 2 hours ago, JWM said: A little OT, but not very far indeed. I hope it can be interesting for all who like to know WW2 history in all details. Imagine, that there was a black... Polish soldier in Warsaw Uprising in 1944! His name was August Agbola O'Browne In civil life before it he was a Nigerian origing jazz musician playing in clubs of Warsaw... More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Agbola_O'Browne Regards J-W Now that is something interesting I never knew, thanks for sharing it. Dennis Edited June 23, 2020 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 On 6/23/2020 at 5:38 PM, TAG said: Here's a photo of the aforementioned Jim Hyde and Dingo, hard to tell what mark of Spitfire that is, though. Coloring photo from Marina Amaral: (When I'm watched this collection coloring photo: https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5975361.html remember about this topic) B.R. Serge 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Aardvark said: Colo(u)ring photo from Marina Amaral: What shade of OD is that Spitfire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ed Russell said: What shade of OD is that Spitfire? Wrong?! 😁 But what You want from this lady? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Amaral I think she pays more attention to the colorization faces in the photo, in addition Amaral is advised during colorization by medieval historian Dan Jones, therefore, in this case, questions must still be asked by a consultant historian and not by an artist. B.R. Serge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Aardvark said: But what you want from this lady? What I want is for her (and everyone else who colours photographs) to put a stamp on them saying "This is an artificially coloured photograph". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Ed Russell said: What I want is for her (and everyone else who colours photographs) to put a stamp on them saying "This is an artificially coloured photograph". Almost agree. I immediately wrote about this: 22 hours ago, Aardvark said: Coloring photo from Marina Amaral: But when I wrote, I really doubted the correctness of the definition "Coloring"...."colorization"? "Colorization", is there such a word in English? It seemed to me that this was newspeak ....in general, with this interpenetration of cultures, I suspect that if someone reads (for example) Russian model forums through a Google translator, he encounters a lot of delusional translation, because many model terms taken from English are Russified, acquiring a local flavor that is not available for automatic translation.🤔 This is neither good nor bad, it's just life. 🤗 In any case, attempts to make history color should not be taken badly, because they stimulate interest in history for modern generations who are used to seeing the world in bright colors thanks to modern technology and do not perceive black and white well. In addition, as far as I know, Marina adjusts her work if she is reasonably pointed to a discrepancy. B.R. Serge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Aardvark said: In any case, attempts to make history color should not be taken badly, because they stimulate interest in history for modern generations who are used to seeing the world in bright colors thanks to modern technology and do not perceive black and white well. In addition, as far as I know, Marina adjusts her work if she is reasonably pointed to a discrepancy. Thats fine and very agreeable Serge, and you did exactly what everyone should do but doesn't. You posted the original photo so that the whole forum/world knows its original B&W form. Too many take colored photo’s as gospel and argue that lime green is RAF Dk. Green. Admittedly I'm guilty of having made that mistake in the past before finding the original B&W to show me. I try to be vigilant but don't always catch some colored examples in my files or when I post here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 9 hours ago, Aardvark said: "Colorization", is there such a word in English? Colorization (in US English) or colourisation (most of the rest of the world) seem to be the accepted words in the English language for digitally transforming a monochrome photograph into a coloured one. I have seen "hand-colouring" used for actually painting over a photograph and "chromograph" used as a descriptor for such a work. On a lighter note, I now have a reference picture for painting my Spitfire in Olive Drab! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephLalor Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/23/2020 at 3:38 PM, TAG said: Here's a photo of the aforementioned Jim Hyde and Dingo, hard to tell what mark of Spitfire that is, though. The Spitfire seems to have a Vokes Aero Vee filter. Mk IX? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephLalor Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) The photo of Joseph Hyde with the CO's dog was taken at Detling in 1944. The Squadron was No 132 and was on Spitfire IXBs in March of that year. Edited June 26, 2020 by JosephLalor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 1 hour ago, JosephLalor said: The photo of Joseph Hyde with the CO's dog was taken at Detling in 1944. The Squadron was No 132 and was on Spitfire IXBs in March of that year. Now who makes a 1/72 IXb kit ? KP/AZ, Italeri, can an eduard IXc early be brought back to “B” standard ? The codes for 132 are FF* correct ? Thats what my little bit of searching shows at least. If so then I think my first build will be along these lines, dedicated to Joseph Hyde and a Tuskegee pilot yet to be chosen when I do the side by side builds in August. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjiml2 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) On 6/22/2020 at 2:55 AM, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Thanks those help quite a bit a Beaufighter and Spitfire Vb also sound good. If you decide to build Bundy's Beaufighter, you should check out @Terry @ Aviaeology article as well. I wrote the Black Buffalo article linked above, which was about Mr. Bundy's life, but Terry really expand it with regards to his ops in Beaufighters and Mosquitos. Link is below. Buffalo Soldier Jim Edited June 27, 2020 by airjiml2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephLalor Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Now who makes a 1/72 IXb kit ? KP/AZ, Italeri, can an eduard IXc early be brought back to “B” standard ? The codes for 132 are FF* correct ? Thats what my little bit of searching shows at least. If so then I think my first build will be along these lines, dedicated to Joseph Hyde and a Tuskegee pilot yet to be chosen when I do the side by side builds in August. Dennis FF is correct for 132's squadron code. I don't rightly know what would have to be done with existing kits to get a IXB. As far as I know that designation came from the cropped supercharger impeller and not the wing/armament arrangement, but don't quote me on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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