brewerjerry Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 The 24 Jan '43 request for code colour change to yellow for 277 Sqn refers to "the present RED squadron letters" (the upper case is in the original). A July 1943 Air Ministry minute whinging about the colour change to yellow states that dull red letters were promulgated in AMO 664/1942. Actually the wording of 664 is ambiguous. It states only that code letters are to be painted in the "appropriate colour" and then at para 5 (ii) that "matt finish paints are to be used for the national markings and dull red code letters". Nick Hi Nick Thanks for the info cheers jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACDC Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just come across this on Youtube. Interesting images of 276 Sqn ASR Spitfires at RAF Warmwell. One of the hangars and the blast wall in the back ground are still there. Brian 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Marden Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Interesting indeed, thanks for the link. Can anyone make out the serials of AQ-C and AQ-E? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Andy Marden said: Interesting indeed, thanks for the link. Can anyone make out the serials of AQ-C and AQ-E? Hi serials i have in my files AQ-C P8131 MkII AQ-E BL379 Vb with my current eyesight, old eyes, i am not sure if they are the ones in the film tho cheers jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 " Just come across this on Youtube. Interesting images of 276 Sqn ASR Spitfires at RAF Warmwell. One of the hangars and the blast wall in the back ground are still there. Brian " Hi i had always hoped the location was harrowbeer, but the woods always hinted at warmwell, but still nice 276 stuff cheers jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Very interesting, anyone notice the P47 in the background? (and the Anson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Roberts Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Interesting film. Richard Hillary was working on an Air-Sea Rescue film in November 1942, capacity unknown, after recovering from burns received when he was shot down during the Battle of Britain. This film is dated 1943, so maybe the one he was involved with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACDC Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Jerry, I took the dog for a walk there on Sunday and stood in the same spot where the camera would have been. The woods are also still there (Knighton Wood) and the fighter dispersals and some of the buildings. Looking more closely, it could be a trick of the camera and the old film, but the colour of the underside of the engine cowling looks considerably darker than the spinner, ignoring the black band. Could they actually be in Day Fighter scheme and not TSS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, ACDC said: Jerry, I took the dog for a walk there on Sunday and stood in the same spot where the camera would have been. The woods are also still there (Knighton Wood) and the fighter dispersals and some of the buildings. Hi yeah it was just wishful thinking on my side just like the whirlwind photos most are at warmwell not harrowbeer cheers jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 04/02/2024 at 17:04, ACDC said: Just come across this on Youtube. 5 hours ago, Andy Marden said: Can anyone make out the serials of AQ-C and AQ-E? 3 hours ago, brewerjerry said: serials i have in my files AQ-C P8131 MkII AQ-E BL379 Vb with my current eyesight, old eyes, i am not sure if they are the ones in the film tho the film is also on the British Pathe website, which also has a page of still, at 1 sec intervals here https://www.britishpathe.com/asset/stills/65680/ AQ-E is ??825, maybe 325, looks to be Vb poss P8325... Ah, Think this is it P8325 IIb CBAF MXII 12MU 14-4-41 303Sq 12-5-41 65Sq 15-9-41 416Sq 1-4-42 61OTU 18-5-42 Swung on landing u/c collapsed Hawarden CB 20-6-42 P/O EJ Cowan safe. Scottish Aviation 1CAACU 28-10-42 ops 14-1-43 1CRU 22-1-43 Cv ASRIIc 275Sq 5-5-43 ASTE 22-5-44 recat CE SOC 16-8-44 this could be P8131 P8131 IIa CBAF MXII 8MU 15-5-41 66Sq 6-7-41 CGS 23-2-42 e/f f/l in field Marholm Northants CB 23-3-42 P/O F Wiza (Pol) inj. recat CE ASTM 1-4-42 61OTU 21-9-42 1CRU 5-2-43 Cv ASRIIc 276Sq 30-4-43 Belly landed Warmwell AC 8-7-43 SqLdr BH Bowring safe 1AGS 18-2-45 10AGS 4-5-45 SOC 18-6-45 HTH 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) Hi it maybe P 8325 ? i have it noted with 276Sqn in my files maybe the issue to 275 is a typo in original records ? or an unofficial transfer cheers jerry Edited February 5 by brewerjerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 16 minutes ago, brewerjerry said: Hi it maybe P 8325 ? i have it noted with 276Sqn in my files maybe the issue to 275 is a typo in original records ? or an unofficial transfer cheers jerry 2 hours ago, Troy Smith said: Ah, Think this is it P8325 IIb CBAF MXII 12MU 14-4-41 303Sq 12-5-41 65Sq 15-9-41 416Sq 1-4-42 61OTU 18-5-42 Swung on landing u/c collapsed Hawarden CB 20-6-42 P/O EJ Cowan safe. Scottish Aviation 1CAACU 28-10-42 ops 14-1-43 1CRU 22-1-43 Cv ASRIIc 275Sq 5-5-43 ASTE 22-5-44 recat CE SOC 16-8-44 I posted this above, I didn't note it was stated as being with 275 Sq. Just checked Air Britain, they list it ending up 276. P8325 - 303/65/Digby/416/61 OTU/ 1 CACU/276 - SOC 16.8.44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 49 minutes ago, Troy Smith said: I posted this above, I didn't note it was stated as being with 275 Sq. Just checked Air Britain, they list it ending up 276. P8325 - 303/65/Digby/416/61 OTU/ 1 CACU/276 - SOC 16.8.44 Hi nice to know that my 1970/80's notes are still accurate even if my eyes are not so nowadays, but to quote somebody " the women get more beautiful every day " cheers jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACDC Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 13 hours ago, brewerjerry said: Hi i had always hoped the location was harrowbeer, but the woods always hinted at warmwell, but still nice 276 stuff cheers jerry Jerry, don't know if you have seen this already but it has some interesting stuff: https://www.atlantikwall.co.uk/atlantikwall/edev_harrowbeer.php Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Marden Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Thanks for the input on the codes. The AM78 form for P8325 confirms it was with 276 Sqn, not 275 Sqn. Definitely agree on this for AQ-E. P8131 does indeed look likely for AQ-C, but not 100% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Hi from https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Spitfire/Spitfire.html cheers jerry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Marden Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Thanks for the confirmation Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Roberts Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Note, P8131 was a presentation aircraft, ‘LUTON’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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