Ghostbase Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 US Navy Group Build? There just has to be a McDonnell-Douglas F-4 Phantom II somewhere here! Back in the later half of the 60's the F-4 Phantom *was* the US Navy and the 'Double Ugly' reigned supreme and she was probably the aircraft that became most publicly associated with the Vietnam War. Currently I have got the midsummer building blues so I want to do something which is easy and gives a good visual result. As a result I have chosen to start another ancient ESCI 1/48th scale F-4J Phantom. The kit is ESCI 4067 'Bicentennial Phantom II' which suggests that it is an F-4B but in reality is an F-4J. I have the SuperScale decal No.48-857 which is a very showy F-4J operated by VF-74 'Be-Devilers' off the USS America in 1972 somewhere in S.E. Asia. She will most likely be kitted out with a 600 US gallon centre line fuel tank, four AIM-9 Sidewinders and several AIM-7 Sparrows. What's in it for me? This kit has excellent recessed panel lines and I want to work on my wash skills as well as overall weathering effects. I could still change my mind however a USN F-4J she will definitely be Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 woo hoo another esci kit I have an a4 in that blue hate to think how I'm gonna cover it plus I'm building their crusader nice one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonhoff Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Looking forward to this - the bicentennial phantom was a J model but for some reason had the B model IR sensor... Built this kit a long time ago but binned it when I got my own house. Regretted it and finally picked up another bicentennial F4 at Hinckley this year. Threatened to do this one for the GB but have changed my plans slightly since.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yes good to see a F4 and the old ESCI kit good luck with your build Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Maas Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 It's a nice kit, I'm doing one right now as a F-4D over at the Aeroscale Phabulous Phantoms GB. That said, a set of replacement seats is advised, and a full cockpit may be desired as the kits seats are awful and the cockpit is otherwise rather bare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostbase Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Have got started though to be honest am not in model making mode at the moment. This is my third ESCI / Italeri 1/48th F-4C/D/J build so I am aware of the pitfalls of this kit, it would have no problem being counted into the Obselete Kits GB in a months time! I am also wavering about the colour scheme Starting with one of the downsides of the kit, have applied Halfords white primer to the insides of the air intakes, the sink hole (or whatever it is) on the intake ramp is especially annoying:- Have put the wings together, being lazy and have added undercarriage legs and doors so I can spray everything gloss white! Note the blanks which are provided with the kit for the outer pylons; she is going to have a centre line fuel tank only:- The next stage is the addition of the cockpit. I agree with Adam's comments regards replacement seats, I added a Hasegawa pit to the last ESCI F-4 I made and it made a huge difference. Bear in mind that the transparencies just don't fit so the model is best displayed with the canopies open, replacement seats do make sense. Anyway, this is the leftover pit from my last build complete with awful decals Now, I am conscious that I am sounding a bit negative today however there is a plus to this particular kit which I purchased on eBay a few years ago for £11 I think. The box came with no less than three complete decal sheets for the Bicentennial F-4J and two more part sheets and they have been well-kept so maybe the Bicentennial F-4J could be an option; I don't have to make up my mind until the primer is completed anyway:- Am working 'lates' over the Bank Holiday weekend so should be able to get a bit more done in the mornings the next few days. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Good start Michael , look forward to the rest of your build . Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostbase Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Oh no! Only 12 days to go. Once again real life has got in the way plus a little bit of a loss of model making mojo for a while. However it is a straightforward kit (it would equally qualify for the Obsolete Kit GB!) so I still have a chance. Have put together most of the major parts and applied a dusting of white primer to see what needs filling and sanding. As this photo shows the old ESCI F-4J had superb engraved panel lines. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Go for it Michael you can do it Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostbase Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Put the intakes together and cemented on last night, resulted in the usual problem with this kit: So looks like filling and sanding next, got to sort out that pit on the intake ramp! And what did I forget to do? Yup, Phantoms don't have dark blue cockpit interiors! Kind of wish I had started the Academy F-4B - have got one in the stash - but that is going to need a lot of time and effort. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Hi Michael I (think) have just bought one of these but am not sure as the kit has no box, Decals or instructions. Are there any distinctive markings on the sprue to confirm I have an F-4J? The kit is still in its sealed bag and the sprues are all very dark blue. If it is the same kit then I plan to follow your build for guidelines. Cheers Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Put the intakes together and cemented on last night, resulted in the usual problem with this kit: So looks like filling and sanding next, got to sort out that pit on the intake ramp! And what did I forget to do? Yup, Phantoms don't have dark blue cockpit interiors! Kind of wish I had started the Academy F-4B - have got one in the stash - but that is going to need a lot of time and effort. Michael Well yours has lol think a lot of us has a Academy F 4B in the Stash but got other F4`s wanting so what we do is the old ones Nice build keep it going Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostbase Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Hi Michael I (think) have just bought one of these but am not sure as the kit has no box, Decals or instructions. Are there any distinctive markings on the sprue to confirm I have an F-4J? The kit is still in its sealed bag and the sprues are all very dark blue. If it is the same kit then I plan to follow your build for guidelines. Cheers Mike Hi Mike, sounds like this kit. ESCI 4043 F-4B/J 'Navy Phantom' and the later AMT F-4C/D were moulded in light grey plastic, the more recent Italeri 2624 F-4J 'Phantom II' is also grey. Monogram did issue a USN VX-4 F-4J moulded in black. This kit comes with no weapons and just the large belly tank. The horizontal stabilators are parts 42 and 45. HTH Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostbase Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Forgot to mention, Alan Hooker did a build of the Italeri F-4J (UK) which is a virtual clone of this kit, was the F-4 Phantom Group Build end 2011 here http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/75765-italeri-148th-f-4juk/ Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Maas Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Forgot to mention, Alan Hooker did a build of the Italeri F-4J (UK) which is a virtual clone of this kit, was the F-4 Phantom Group Build end 2011 here http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/75765-italeri-148th-f-4juk/ Michael Same molds in fact, Italieri ended up with most of the ESCI molds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostbase Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Looks like I am going to call time on this old F-4J, least on this Group Build. As always, I have changed my mind about what I want to do, I now think that she will be a showy VX-4 bird and I have the choice of the ESCI kit decals for the 1976 'Bicentennial' Phantom which involves some hard work with the airbrush applying a dark blue, red and white paint scheme. The other choice is a decal sheet from the Revell 1/48th F-4J and an easier to apply all gloss black 'Playboy Bunny' of a few years later. I am at the point of having to decide which scheme to apply. So yes a 'Fail' on this Group Build but a 'Pass' in enthusiasm for the future. Thanks for inspiring me to get started on this gorgeous old girl. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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