Eduard Mig-21MF Cockpit Colour Mix?

[andym]

Has anyone come up witha paint mix to match the colour on the etched sheet for the cockpit. I've tried several mixes and haven't come close. A Humbrol,Revell or Tamiya mix would be nice or even a pointer in the right direction.

Thanks,

Andy

[Don McIntyre]

I know for sure that Xtracolour does this color. I think it's also in the Modelmaster range, although, I'm not 100% sure of that. I don't know how well they'd match the Eduard PE, though.

[gcds]

Has anyone come up witha paint mix to match the colour on the etched sheet for the cockpit. I've tried several mixes and haven't come close. A Humbrol,Revell or Tamiya mix would be nice or even a pointer in the right direction.

Thanks,

Andy

The Extracolour Russian interior blue green is too green/grey to match the p/e. I got close with Extracolour VASP blue plus a drop of Humbrol green no.2. Hope this helps.

Gordon

[andym]

The Extracolour Russian interior blue green is too green/grey to match the p/e. I got close with Extracolour VASP blue plus a drop of Humbrol green no.2. Hope this helps.

Gordon

Thanks for that. I'd tried to mix a suitable colour using Xtracolour Russian Cockpit Blue-Green and an old Warbirds Acrylic Cockpit Blue-Geen but couldn't get close. I'll try your mix next

Regards,

andy

[Jennings Heilig]

There is no "correct" color for Soviet cockpits. I've personally seen everything from a very pale mint green to an almost (literally) fluorescent electric blue-green (in an Mi-17). For as long as the basic color has been in use (nearly 50 years), you can bet there are many, many variations. I just got a bottle of Gunze H46 (recommended by Eduard). It's not a dead match to the PE stuff, but it's close.

I personally don't care for Eduard's color, as I think it's too blue and too intense for a 1/48 model. I scraped up a bottle of "Soviet Cockpit Green" from a now-defunct (?) company called "Red Paint" that I like fairly well. It's a little pale perhaps, but I like it better than the Eduard color.

Here's my start on the MF cockpit. I overpainted the PE with the above paint. I still have some work to do here, but as Eduard's PE is painted with a fairly tough enamel, you can actually scrape off the acrylic to reveal the detail underneath. Also still have to put the gun sight in place. I added a layer of thin clear plastic from a blister pack (my new tube of Rub-n-Buff silver) to give more of a realistic glass effect. The radar scope is painted flat white, then Tamiya clear orange, then Tamiya smoke, then a layer of Future. The face of the scope really needs to be deeper inside the hood, so next time I'll rout out the face a little before painting it.

J

[ROGERD]

found a games workshop colour, which looks OK if the canopy is closed.however another question- the instructions call for the underside airbrakes to be yellow? I think this may mean the inteiror surfaces to be zinc chromate-would this be correct

Tip - when attaching the top wing halves just make sure not to sand off the antenna on the leading edges when cleaning up the join seam.guess who did,nt look at the instructions carefully!

sorry - one final question - aqnyone know the closest paint matches (acrylics) for the egyptian version?

regards

Rogerd

[Jennings Heilig]

the instructions call for the underside airbrakes to be yellow? I think this may mean the inteiror surfaces to be zinc chromate-would this be correct

There is no one correct color for anything on the MiG-21. The Czechs seem to have used a very bright yellow ZC on the inside surfaces of their air brakes, but that's definitely not the case for many others you see. Some of them appear to be the underside camo color, and others appear to be grey or the grey-green of the wheel wells. Sealing tape around the canopy and windscreen is every color (literally) from white to black, with loads of variations in between.

J

[ROGERD]

There is no one correct color for anything on the MiG-21. The Czechs seem to have used a very bright yellow ZC on the inside surfaces of their air brakes, but that's definitely not the case for many others you see. Some of them appear to be the underside camo color, and others appear to be grey or the grey-green of the wheel wells. Sealing tape around the canopy and windscreen is every color (literally) from white to black, with loads of variations in between.

J

Thank you, seems trying to tie down colours is a bit of a nightmare!

rogerd

[ROGERD]

Just looking at the eduard web site - the SMT version is due around May - What would be the obvious difference between this and the MF?

I think from memory (dangerous I know) that this was the version used by the indian air force- all those cool adverseary schemes!

regards

Rogerd

[godders]

Good discussion! I was just thinking of what colour to do a Mig-15 cockpit so thanks, guys for clarity!! I'm going to make my own based on what you've said.

Check out Rod Bettencourt's Mig-21 interior, I really like it.

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66355

[Jennings Heilig]

Good discussion! I was just thinking of what colour to do a Mig-15 cockpit so thanks, guys for clarity!! I'm going to make my own based on what you've said.

Don't use blue-green on a MiG-15!! That color didn't come into use in MiG cockpits until the mid-1960s (around the MiG-21PFM era). Your MiG-15 needs a medium/dark grey cockpit. I've never seen any MiG-15/17/19 cockpit that was anything but grey.

J

[Gekko_1]

Problem solved!

It's a 50/50 mix of Gunze Sangyo H25 Sky Blue and H46 Emerald Green.

And the build continues on my Blog!

Cheers

Richard.

[Jennings Heilig]

Problem solved!

Only if you have access to Gunze. Sadly, that stuff is getting to be like hens' teeth in the US. I have a supply laid in from a hobby shop closure in the 1980s (and yes, it's still perfectly good), but unfortunately neither of those colors is among the many bottles I have.

J

[mrcooljules]

Don't use blue-green on a MiG-15!! That color didn't come into use in MiG cockpits until the mid-1960s (around the MiG-21PFM era). Your MiG-15 needs a medium/dark grey cockpit. I've never seen any MiG-15/17/19 cockpit that was anything but grey.

J

i made that mistake on a Mig 15 years ago....damn 32nd scale with resin cockpit. i know now its totally the wrong colour :-(

[godders]

Don't use blue-green on a MiG-15!! That color didn't come into use in MiG cockpits until the mid-1960s (around the MiG-21PFM era). Your MiG-15 needs a medium/dark grey cockpit. I've never seen any MiG-15/17/19 cockpit that was anything but grey.

J

Nice one J,

I'll heed your advice...Grey it is.... and I'll just have to do a 21 cos I like the colour.

[Marcel Drgon]

If GSI C range is in question, then C004 yellow + C034 sky blue in 1:4 ratio comes pretty close to the stuff on Eduards PE set. AV Vallejo also produces color called Emerald green (70838), which is quite close as well.

Indeed, the colour varied, but what is on the PE set is quite close to chips of original Russian colour. Actually, mixing any ordinary blue and yellow will make it; mixing colurs is not a difficult matter if you have chip or specimen, in this case the PE set. Just count drops of basic colours and steer these well under good lighting coditions, and you have it sooner than you think.